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Topic # 68293 18-Sep-2010 15:15
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Hi all, I am in the process of renovating my 1920s bungalow and in the process managed to add to the design a storage closet that can include a patch panel and lots of other stuff, it's 500mm wide and 900mm deep and I get the space above where a ironing board and vacuum cleaner go.  Here's a photo, 

The patch panel is a Molex with 2 rows of 24 jack points, I got it on Trademe for $31, I have brought the main phone line through the ceiling into the closet, split it into phone and data with a master adsl splitter/filter, the phone from the filter goes into a BT jackpoint which I have labeled 'test point' and then patches into one of the blocks of 8 in the panel which I have linked by inserting the blue and white wire into the blue and white connectors, another photo

The phone line tested all ok by pluging a phone into one of the 7 jackpoints (the 8th is the phone in.  I cut the end of a phone cord with a phone jack and attached a rj45.

the adsl line from the splitter is fixed by electrical connector to a lead going into the rj11 (I think) to the modum, then I made up a short patch lead using the cat 6 cable I brought and 2 rj45s.

So far so good, but when I ran the cat 6 lines to the rooms in the house I ran into some problems:

The patch panel states 568A wiring but the colour coding behind the jacks points is 568B, I understand that this doesn't matter for ethernet anyway.  If you look at the third photo you will see that I have done one (number 37) according to 568A and the other according to the colours on the pushdown points, brown, brown/white, green, green/white, orange, orange/white and blue, blue/white, notice also the top left where I have joined all the blue and blue/white to have 7 phone lines.

Once I started to test the cables I put to the rooms I ran into some problems, initially I just connected the blue and blue/white so I could test the phone, it didn't work 
but if I use a normal phone lead with the rj11 (I think) on it it works, why would having a rj45 with only two wires in not work when it does when it plug straight into the panels that I wired for phone (the same cable), so I have this rj11 to rj45 lead that I can use to plug the phone into any of the phone points in the patch panel (7 abyway as one goes in from the phone line.

When I attach the rest of the wires, I am a little confused by the colour coding on the keystone jack point, which looking at the back is top left blue and blue, top right orange and green, bottom left green and orange and bottom right brown brown. There is a ABBA down the middle, I try a diagram
Blue A Orange
Blue B Green
Orange B Brown
Green A Brown

Does this mean that I can say treat the left and right most as A, and the inner ones as B, therefore for the orange and green (which are for ethernet right???) so I could do top rightmost as orange then bottom secone in as the orange/white????

Lastly, I was thinking I could patch straight from the modum to the panel jack going to the rooms rather then patch the 4 modum outputs into the back of 4 panel jacks, then patch again to the room I want, am i wrong in this??

Any help appreciated!  I think the photos are up, let me know if they aren't, they are uploaded to my geekzone gallery 


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  Reply # 381633 18-Sep-2010 15:17
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maybe the photos work this way

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  Reply # 381640 18-Sep-2010 15:35
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try here for the photos¤t=18092010060.jpg&newest...


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  Reply # 381833 19-Sep-2010 12:07
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Update 1: I just fixed my ethernet problem, I'm so stupid. For some reason I thought the A and B on the keystone jack was options for the way to look at the inside or outside connection point rather than the 568 A or B standard. I came to me while I was doing something unrelated to the network, now it's all fixed and working. I can't believe I didn't think of this straight away.

I still can't figure out why the RJ45 to RJ11 wire I used to connect the phone, works when used on the phone points on the patch panel but not at the ketstone jack at the room end of the cable pluges into the same point????

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  Reply # 382497 20-Sep-2010 22:23
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Hi again, added another photo, my Rj11s arrived so I added one to the wire to the modem to tidy things up a little. At the moment the phone line in is connected to the splitter by an electrical connection, anyone out there know what I can use that would be better????¤t=20092010072.jpg

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  Reply # 383012 22-Sep-2010 08:45
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more photos, the first is the deadbolt from my old bathroom I used to keep the panel closed, it also supports the hinge at the other end. Also photos of the leftover bits from the patch panel cabinet. the cupboard was too small so i cut one end on just past the hinge and used a block of wood to attach it to the wall, the other end also has some wood to make both side even.

4th Photo is the 10 x socket power panel I got on Trademe for $20, it has a 10amp fuse and fitted in the cupboard with about 5mm spare from the door, pure luck and it's handy with the plugs point up so that the transformers for the modem and router can sit on top.

The cable tidy with the left over bits of the cabinet I may use up the corner of the two walls up the back to try and keep the cables from the ethernet tidy, but I'm not sure. There's lots of things left to do to keep the cables tidy still.¤t=22092010078.jpg#!oZZ1Q...

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  Reply # 383013 22-Sep-2010 08:48
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Also, note the phone panel (photo 5), I added the brown wires so it able to take 2 phone lines. I doubt that would happen with the high line rentals in NZ though.

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  Reply # 383039 22-Sep-2010 09:41
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Gidday mate, welcome to GZ!

I have absolutely no idea how to help you with your query, just thought it'd be nice to have a reply to your thread.

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  Reply # 383190 22-Sep-2010 14:42
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thanks, I was wondering if I was just talking to myself.....


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  Reply # 383235 22-Sep-2010 16:02
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Welcome aboard....

Just a couple of reasons why you might not be getting replies as such

- Photo links arent working - "The action that you were trying to perform has failed."
- You should have split up your intro/query :)

So my advice is, use this thread to say hi, and copy your post over to a relevant forum - LAN maybe ?


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  Reply # 383905 24-Sep-2010 08:34
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no worries, I'll leave this one here as the intro, and post a new question on the lan site, thanks

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