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Topic # 145506 20-May-2014 10:17
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http://www.zdnet.com/surface-pro-3-price-and-spec-leak-7000029604/?s_cid=e589&ttag=e589&ftag=TREc64629f

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 have to say I mirror this persons sentiment. If these are correct it feels like the wrong thing for MS to have done. More expensive isn't what our customers are looking for, it pretty much puts them out of reach of anyone that MIGHT have been considering one I think.

I really liked the Surface RT but understand it's a hard sell in some regards, the biggest thing about them is they are so much lighter and slimmer.

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  Reply # 1048610 20-May-2014 10:20
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FTA: "Those numbers are painful to look at; it's like being hit around the head with dollar signs. The cheapest Surface Pro 3 at these prices will be $300 dearer than the cheapest iPad Air, and $170 more expensive than the cheapest with cellular."

What a load... He should compare the Surface prices to a MacBook Pro - we're talking an Intel i3, i5 or i7 laptop with convenient touch screen and up to 512GB storage. This is no "iPad-class" device.









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  Reply # 1048611 20-May-2014 10:21
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freitasm: FTA: "Those numbers are painful to look at; it's like being hit around the head with dollar signs. The cheapest Surface Pro 3 at these prices will be $300 dearer than the cheapest iPad Air, and $170 more expensive than the cheapest with cellular."

What a load... He should compare the Surface prices to a MacBook Pro - we're talking an Intel i3, i5 or i7 laptop with convenient touch screen.




Different devices, different audiences I think.

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  Reply # 1048612 20-May-2014 10:22
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Different devices is Surface and iPad. When you talk Core i7, 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD you are talking laptop-class devices, not "iPad" toy.







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  Reply # 1048614 20-May-2014 10:27
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freitasm: Different devices is Surface and iPad. When you talk Core i7, 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD you are talking laptop-class devices, not "iPad" toy.



Well I guess so, but the price difference of an Ipad to a Surface Pro is pretty huge. No question, the Ipad is a consumption device and MS Tablets were the first I've seen able to be productive on. I am not saying I don't like them, I am just saying I agree that the entry level is expensive. Also I'd be keen to hear from MS as to whether it's likely the tablets will get Windows 9 or whatever it will be called. I'd have to imagine it would, they are basically PC's at the end of the day and most PC's purchased today would expect to be able to run the next OS version.

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  Reply # 1048616 20-May-2014 10:31
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If anyone buys a Surface Pro to replace an iPad, then it's a waste of money. That would be a Surface, not Pro. Specs support completely different use cases: professional vs consumer.






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  Reply # 1048625 20-May-2014 10:34
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Macbook Airs are cheap now, that's a likely comparison device specs wise.

When I owned my Surface Pro 2, it really wasn't fun.  It was heavy, kickstand was awkward and pen wasn't accurate in regions of the screen.

It was plenty fast...but I think you need to be a specific type of corporate customer to enjoy this device (several friends who work in corporate/IT environments have been assigned them) but as a creative device it's not great, especially since Windows and it's software isn't all optimised to that screen size.

I think if they made the Surface 3 (non pro) an Atom, I would buy that!  

I think comparisons to iPad Air are wrong.

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  Reply # 1048667 20-May-2014 11:13
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How is Windows not optimised for 1920 x 1080 which is what the Surface Pro uses? Or which application that is not optimised for 1920 x 1080?




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  Reply # 1048683 20-May-2014 11:28
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billgates: How is Windows not optimised for 1920 x 1080 which is what the Surface Pro uses? Or which application that is not optimised for 1920 x 1080?


Creative apps like Adobe CS.  Microsoft can blame who it likes, but Adobe software still isn't user friendly on high DPI devices..a real pain with the inaccurate Wacom pen (even after calibration) that is included.

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  Reply # 1048711 20-May-2014 11:54
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Surface is a premium product, it is durable, well designed and built to last.  Our sights are on Apple not trying to compete with other Windows OEMs.

Its for people who want to get stuff done. To write not just read, to compose not just listen, to create not just watch

If you find it too expensive, that's fine there are loads of other Windows hybrid tablet devices in the market from OEMs like Asus T100 at NZ$589 incl that meet those needs

The announcement tomorrow is going to be for an amazing productivity device, I can assure you of that



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  Reply # 1048714 20-May-2014 11:59
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nathan: Surface is a premium product, it is durable, well designed and built to last.  Our sights are on Apple not trying to compete with other Windows OEMs.

Its for people who want to get stuff done. To write not just read, to compose not just listen, to create not just watch

If you find it too expensive, that's fine there are loads of other Windows hybrid tablet devices in the market from OEMs like Asus T100 at NZ$589 incl that meet those needs

The announcement tomorrow is going to be for an amazing productivity device, I can assure you of that


Seems a strange thing really. People who buy iPads, in my experience aren't looking to do the same things you are suggesting a Surface is targeted for. At twice the price or more for the entry level product, there seems to be a bit of the puzzle missing.

I guess put more simply, if you are targeting Apple consumers, then why do it with a device designed for a difference purpose at a much higher price?


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  Reply # 1048715 20-May-2014 12:02
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most people that have a tablet have a PC as well

Surface brings both of those devices together

This is a Tablet that can replace your Laptop

So don't compare this to an iPad, but to a MBA or MBP



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  Reply # 1048717 20-May-2014 12:03
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nathan: most people that have a tablet have a PC as well

Surface brings both of those devices together

This is a Tablet that can replace your Laptop

So don't compare this to an iPad, but to a MBA or MBP


Ah, I understand more now, I guess when you said Apple I assumed Ipad (being the Apple Tablet).

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  Reply # 1048746 20-May-2014 12:40
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I didn't know they were going to call it Surface Pro 3.  I thought the two new devices were the surface pro mini and maxi (for want of a name) with the larger display.   The release is tomorrow (tonight) some time so wait and see I guess.

Now that I have the type-2 keyboard, realistically I think in a couple of years when I upgrade, I'll probably go for the unit with the larger screen.




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  Reply # 1048751 20-May-2014 12:46
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Just reading the original article, and one of the concerns is that the Surface Pro 3 will be more expensive than an IPad Air.

Those numbers are painful to look at; it's like being hit around the head with dollar signs. The cheapest Surface Pro 3 at these prices will be $300 dearer than the cheapest iPad Air, and $170 more expensive than the cheapest with cellular.


I wonder if the writer of the article has used a surface pro?




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http://blog.surface.com/2014/05/announcing-surface-pro-3/

NZ Availability in August, I will have some demo models in the country in a couple of weeks

thinnest Intel Core PC ever

 64GB/4GB i3 - $1199
128GB/4GB i5 - $1449
256GB/8GB i5 - $1879
256GB/8GB i7 - $2249
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Screen: 12” ClearType Full HD Plus display, Resolution: 2160 x 1440, Aspect Ratio: 3:2, Touch: multi-touch 216PPI

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