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Topic # 15000 30-Jul-2007 18:09
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Hi there,

I have finally found two notebook laptops of my liking. I need it for gaming - Flight Simulator X - and of course, everyday use.
Both cost around $3500. Which one would you go for?

I would prefer a 15" laptop for ease of taking it around.  However, just saw the 17" Toshiba and the graphics card is top of the line!  Better graphics & large laptop size vs. decent graphics & smaller laptop size.  Hmmm, hard to choose!

Btw, is 7950GXT Direct X10 compatible?

Your comments are appreciated!


Asus G1S and the specs:

15.4" WSXGA+ LCD Glare
2ed display ASUS Direct Massager for In-Game System Information
Intel Core2 Duo T7500 2.20GHz FSB800Mhz 4MB L2 cache
1G DDR2 (1x SO-DIMM, 1 Slot Free)
160 GB SATA HDD
nVida Geforce 8600MGT 256MB Physic VRAM
8x DVD Super Multi Drive DL Light Scribe
1.3 WebCAM built-in
Vista Business Ultimate
4 in 1 card reader MMC, SD, MS, MS-Pro
Azalia Compliant and V.92 / K56flex support
10/100/1000Mbps Ethernet
Integrated 802.11a/b/g/n
Built-in Bluetooth V2.0+EDR
1 x TypeII PCMCIA slot
1 x Microphone-in jack
1 x Headphone-out jack (S/PDIF)
1 x Line-in jack
1 x VGA port
1 x DVI-D port
4 x USB 2.0 ports
1 x IEEE 1394 port
1 x RJ11 Modem jack for phone line
1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert
1 x TV-out(S-Video)


And...

Toshiba P100

PROCESSOR : Intel Core 2 Duo T7400, 2.16 GHz, 4MB L2 cache, 667 MHz FSB
MEMORY : 2GB DDR2 667 memory
STORAGE : 200GB 4200 rpm 2.5inch SATA HDD, DVD Drive
DISPLAY : 17 inch TruBrite Widescreen SXGA
RES : 1680 x 1050
COMM : Integrated GBIT TX Ethernet, Integrated Intel Pro Wireless,
Bluetooth V2.0 EDR
GRAPHICS : nVidia GeForce Go7900 GTX graphics card with 512MB of dedicated
DDR3 video memory
SLOTS : 1 x pc card slot (supp one type II pc card, express card)
PORTS : 4 X hi-speed USB 2.0, S-Video, DVI-D, ext MIC, stereo headphone,
s/p dif (shared with headphone), sound volume dial, SVGA (RGB)port,
IEEE 1394, Integrated Biometrics - Fingerprint reader
AUDIO : Intel High Definition Audio 1.0
SPEAKERS : Premium Harman Kardon Stereo Speakers
OS : Windows Vista Home Premium
KEYBOARD : extra wide keyboard with number pad for fast input
POINTING DEVICE : Dual Mode Touchpad
DIMENSIONS (H x W x L) : 35.9/41.9 x 394 x 275 mm
WEIGHT : 3.3 kg

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  Reply # 80448 30-Jul-2007 19:03
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I don't fully understand that post but.
Definately the toshiba P100.
I wouldnt look at screens as the main point for graphics more the dedicated memory which the toshiba has 2x more. The ram is also twice as more, it has a bigger hard drive (however it is 4200rpm which is standard but can be slow for gamming, the asus may be the same)




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  Reply # 80449 30-Jul-2007 19:08
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Thanks mate! Sorry I have edited my previous post as it didn't quite make sense, haha.  I was hungry then!

Yes, P100 has better specs, but I would've really preferred it to be a 15" laptop for ease of carrying it around.

Does Geforce Go 7900GTX card support Direct X10?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 80453 30-Jul-2007 19:58
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fair enough, i like my big screens lol
From memory the nvidia 7900gtx cards are dx9 but direct x is only a software api not a hardware specification. Meaning that nvidea have probably released a dx10 driver for it.



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  Reply # 80460 30-Jul-2007 20:20
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I have been reading some reviews.  There has been talk of over-heating on the Toshiba laptop because of the graphics card. 

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  Reply # 80485 30-Jul-2007 22:48
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I think my mum has that graphics chip and her laptop hasn't overheated.

I would go for toshiba as well. Only because im typing on one now. One with like a six year warranty! lol.


Wait, she doesn't. Stupid card names. I always get them mixed up but yeah if my comment is worth anything lol.

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  Reply # 80611 31-Jul-2007 17:47
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Er.. I thought that only 8xxx cards were DX10 compatible. There's no DX10 for xp due to how it functions (I can't remember all the bits and bobs - physics modeling being done on the gpu come's to mind...) and thus the gfx hardware to run these functions also need to be compliant ie geforce 8xxx cards.

I'm sure nvidia wouldn't miss an opportunity to screw more money out of people and force them to upgrade to the 8xxx series to get the new wiz bang stuff ;)

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  Reply # 80628 31-Jul-2007 20:05
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I would definitly say the Toshiba as i have always liked toshiba laptops because of there build quality and i jabe never had any problems with a toshiba laptop. also because the toshiba had higher specs and if there the same price then your getting more pc for your money.



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  Reply # 80636 31-Jul-2007 21:28
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Yeah, I would have to agree about the build quality of Toshiba. 

I see that new laptops are coming out now and perhaps I should wait to see what is released?  It would be great to see a Toshiba laptop with a 8600M video card supporting 512mb (dedicated) or better.

I need something that is able to play power-hungry Flight Simulator X.

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  Reply # 81555 8-Aug-2007 11:03
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Whatever you get, don't get the Toshiba P100 series that are installed with Windows Vista.
It comes with a lot of headaches.

I have the same model that I got in February and I've been trying to return it back to Harvey Norman since then. Toshiba finally agreed to give me a X200 as the P100 doesn't work properly.
If you intend to use it for gaming, you get really low fps even in Counterstrike source on low settings. Every 10 seconds or so when in anything graphic intensive, you will get a stutter that lasts 2-3 seconds which drops your fps down to 15-20.

P100 has the same issues detailed here:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=30162&st=460

and here:
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=13106

The 7900GTX isn't DX10 compatible but seems to have a lot of issues with Vista. Theres also very poor support from Nvidia or Toshiba with updated graphic drivers. Last one you can get from them are dated November 2006. The P100 also has problems using windows media player to play dvd's. Playing dvds in WMP causes the same stuttering issues as in games, however its fine if you use the Toshiba supplied Intervideo DVD player.


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