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Topic # 201554 24-Aug-2016 07:53

I am looking for a new laptop and notice that many of the models on sale have SSD instead of a conventional hard disk. Can anyone enlighten me on how using an SSD only for Windows works with things like temp files and cache area. I always understood that caches and temp files area where there are heavy writing to disk can cause SSD to deteriorate very quickly. I thought the best practice was to use SSD for the operating system and provide conventional storage for Cache/Temp areas.

Has the evolution of SSD's now improved to the point when one can ignore the rapid rewriting to the disk?

If not are there laptops that offer SSD and conventional disk?

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Reply # 1616593 24-Aug-2016 07:58

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SSD is fast, and their effective lifetime is longer than the laptop will last. Get the laptop with the SSD, you won't regret it.

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Reply # 1616597 24-Aug-2016 08:04

given most SSD's have a suggested write limit are greater than 14TB for a 120gb Intel SSD (That's for an older drive), that's at a minimum 7.5GB written to the SSD per day every day for 5 years.

This link here: http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

has the drives lasting over 100TB yes terra bytes before any issues appear, that's a whopping 54GB per day every day for 5 years.

Its really nothing to worry about, im sure many on here have had SSD's for ages and have had no issues with them, and those that have had issues are usually warned about it by software in advance of it dying.

There are still laptops offered with the standard spinning disc but they are usually the cheaper models, and they are generally 2-4x slower than one with a SSD for anything that involves accessing the disc

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Reply # 1616600 24-Aug-2016 08:08

PS that intel in the test has a write cycle life of 700TB built into it.

and all the drives gave notice when they were failing

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Reply # 1616686 24-Aug-2016 09:42

Been thrashing the SSD in my desktop every day for probably 2 years now, no issues. As mentioned, its probably more likely to outlive the laptop. In saying that, still have backups ;)

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Reply # 1616842 24-Aug-2016 14:02

I have had my Intel 520 series 120GB SSD for just over 4 years in my desktop. and in that time i have done 36TB of writes on the drive, and 56TB of reads

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Reply # 1616850 24-Aug-2016 14:15

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Start of this year there were 3 spinning drives left in my house. One of them failed spectacularly (head attached itself permanently to the platter) and another seems to be dying without any signs beyond someone when windows boots, it doesn't detect it (It's a secondary drive - primary is SSD).

So as of sometime this week when I decommission the failing spinning drive there will be only one left (data drive in my media server), all the rest are now SSD. I have SSD drives that are still working like new that are older than both the spinning drives and get far more use.

Give me SSD any day

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Reply # 1616866 24-Aug-2016 14:40

I have 2 Samsung SSD drives in my laptop. The first had a 10 year warranty, and was 256 gig I stuck it in about 2 years ago. But I was always on the edge of filling it with work stuff. So earlier this year I bought second Samsung 256 SSD with a 5 year warranty, and a DVD caddy, and replaced the DVD drive with it.

I would never go back to an HD drive except for backup. Everything important is backed up to Dropbox from the Laptop as well.

Been happy now with the main SSD for about 2 years, in a laptop I bought in 2011. I carry the laptop to work every day and it handles everything I throw at it even though the cpu is only an I5 3rd Gen. It also run 2 external monitors.

I can't see a need to upgrade in the forseeable future. Not bad for a 5 year old machine.

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Reply # 1617116 25-Aug-2016 04:09

spinning rust!

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Reply # 1617128 25-Aug-2016 08:19

Just an update on my Laptop. I visited PB Tech yesterday for their sale and in the end went with a Toshiba Satellite S55T-C5165 15.6 1080 FullHD Touch Intel I7 12Gb Ram 128 SSD + 1TB HDD

It seems to be running well. Now comes the awful task of getting my licensed software off the old Acer and reinstalled on Toshiba without causing chaos. Most of the software dont like being reinstalled on different hardware for obvious reasons I suppose but wish there was an easy way to de allocate licence on old and reinstall on new.

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