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# 257445 3-Oct-2019 14:33
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Lots going on here.  Who's getting one and does anybody know when they will be released in NZ?

 

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-surface-fall-2019-event-everything-announced

 

 


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  # 2329079 3-Oct-2019 15:32
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The 15" Surface laptop and the Surface X are something I am interested in.





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  # 2329083 3-Oct-2019 15:42
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That link goes to everything announced in the 2018 event. For the 2019 event, look here.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2329084 3-Oct-2019 15:47
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My Surface Pro 4 i5 is due for replacement, so was interested in today's announcement. The Surface X looks great but unlikely to have sufficient processing power to replace my SP4. So it was disappointing to see no real improvement to the Surface Pro other than the long overdue USB C, although they should have dropped the infuriating Surface port (as all it does is connect to their unreliable dock) and put in an additional USB C. I was really hoping for a design change and thinner bezels, but nothing.

 

So I may look at the all-metal 13" Surface Laptop 3 to replace the Surface Pro, or may skip Microsoft this time around and look at a 13" Dell XPS.


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  # 2329093 3-Oct-2019 16:13
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  # 2329106 3-Oct-2019 16:23
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Back in the phone game, finally. Not the Windows Phone revival I was hoping for, but a step in the right direction, even if I'm never going to buy one.


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  # 2329112 3-Oct-2019 16:31
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The Surface Duo looks like a workable foldable in terms of durability. The other foldables are a bit of a worry from that perspective. Would be interested in the price. My Surface Book 2 is the best laptop I have owned... I'm pretty disappointed there wasn't a refresh of the Surface Book.





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  # 2331790 7-Oct-2019 11:32
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freitasm:

 

I am not sure when they will be released for us in NZ but I am in Sydney today and the Microsoft shop on Pitt St is now accepting pre-orders.

 

 

Expect Surface Pro/Laptop/Pro X before end of year. We're awaiting information on the Nex/Duo that we can share, obviously an exciting range of different products announced that we need to be on top of.

 

Surface Pro X would be good to get some info on the SQ1 chip and what it's capable of in terms of performance. Surface Pro 7 is a good refresh, although it can be difficult to be transformative of it without taking it towards what the Pro X represents without a tradeoff somewhere.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2331827 7-Oct-2019 12:31
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Interesting that Surface Pro X is 32-bit only.


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  # 2331829 7-Oct-2019 12:37
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Its either 8 or 16GB RAM so can't imagine that being accurate?

 

EDIT: "Surface Pro X will not install 64-bit applications that have not been ported to ARM64, some games and CAD software, and some third-party drivers or anti-virus soft-ware.
However, new 64-bit apps are being added all the time."


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  # 2331830 7-Oct-2019 12:39
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  # 2331832 7-Oct-2019 12:49
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gehenna:

 

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/299517-microsoft-surface-pro-x-debuts-microsofts-sq1-arm-based-processor 

 

Runs 32-bit x86 natively but needs x64 to be ported to ARM64.  

 

 

I feel bad that I frowned when I saw it was talking about the consumer edition rather than Surface for Business. I had to go find my quote under the SQ1 fact sheet but good point to raise around apps. I would wager that the Office apps will be quite quick off the mark to be ported by shipping date if not already. Exciting to see ARM devices coming out now though.


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  # 2332014 7-Oct-2019 15:45
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Thanks @Jogre. Was sad to see the Surface Book didn't get a refresh. My book 2 will have to last a while longer (it is still going strong!)

 

Looking forward to seeing the Duo in real life.





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  # 2332413 8-Oct-2019 10:41
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hairy1:

 

Thanks @Jogre. Was sad to see the Surface Book didn't get a refresh. My book 2 will have to last a while longer (it is still going strong!)

 

Looking forward to seeing the Duo in real life.

 

 

I've been looking to get a tricked out SB2 when I get budget (through wife or internally at MS) to use for photography and work, intrigued by tricked out 15" Surface Laptop 3 having a decent card in it for the same wants/needs!

 

I'll put $$$ on a refresh for SB3 at next years Surface event!


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  # 2332438 8-Oct-2019 10:58
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I did wonder about that, but then when Panos was talking through the evolution of Surface devices to get to where we are now, I got a distinct feeling the Book was done for.  Which sucks because I love it, and have been holding out for a SB3 since Q3 last year when I had expected to see a refresh.  


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  # 2332928 8-Oct-2019 18:39
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Jogre:

gehenna:


https://www.extremetech.com/computing/299517-microsoft-surface-pro-x-debuts-microsofts-sq1-arm-based-processor 


Runs 32-bit x86 natively but needs x64 to be ported to ARM64.  



I feel bad that I frowned when I saw it was talking about the consumer edition rather than Surface for Business. I had to go find my quote under the SQ1 fact sheet but good point to raise around apps. I would wager that the Office apps will be quite quick off the mark to be ported by shipping date if not already. Exciting to see ARM devices coming out now though.



Office on ARM has been available for quite some time already.

Office mixes x86 and Arm code using CHPE (Compiled Hybrid Portable Executable) DLLs with Arm64 code but 32-bit x86 interfaces

So hundreds of third-party Office add-ins that expect Office to be an x86 application will work with Office on Arm too.

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