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  #281671 11-Dec-2009 23:34
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Encryption is on by default I think.

Encryption to the tracker needs them to support https, not all do that. One i use frequently has just added it for browsing but I have no luck changing to it in utorrent because of certificate issues etc... Cant figure out how to get utorrent to be happy with a self signed one.




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  #281674 11-Dec-2009 23:40
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Ok didn't see this new page -.- For uTorrent just go to option-preferences-protocol outgoing encryption:forced and tick allow incoming legacy connections. Haven't used uTorrent in a while and the encryption doesnt seem to be working that well (as vuze)
You could try vuze just downloading ubuntu at 210-250kBs

Just testing the torrent again on both ill double check which one works better, try this for now

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  #281675 11-Dec-2009 23:51
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  #281680 12-Dec-2009 00:14
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Sorry for the large images, but as you can see the uTorrent picks up speed very fast but then drops tremendously to what other users have been reporting, vuze however connects to more seeds and maintains the speed in another test I was doing that same torrent connected to 500+ seeds and was downloading at 200+ kBs.

And like richms said it does depend on the tracker and also the peers. I use BakaBt which I presume supports https I can achieve 200kBs constant on both uTorrent and Vuze.

I hope this helps!

 
 
 
 

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  #281940 13-Dec-2009 13:44
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I was at my mates house over the weekend, and friday night we were up till 4.30am and had a download going over utorrent, never went above 30kb/s. (the 30 was a spike for like 2 seconds then dropped back to 8 or so kb/s)

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So I've just moved into a new flat and we've got big time since we're all heavy internet users.
The problem is we're also gamers. It's been two days now and gaming is, for lack of a better term, post digestive leftovers.

WoW has an average ping of around 600 (up from 400 at my old place), spiking every 5 mins or so to 15000 (no typo)

Steam is the worst offender however.
A server might give a 50 ping at the lobby. Upon connection the ping is around 200, which drops at about 10 a second to around 70 at which point connection to the server is lost. It's the same for any of the source games and DoW II I think does the same thing, it's hard to tell, but I drop after 30 seconds to 2 minutes.


Streaming music at 128k bitrate is fine, but buffers every 10 mins or so for about 10 seconds.

Downloads during the day are around 20kB/s from any websites. 

Torrents max out at 3kB/s during the day, haven't looked to see their speeds off peak.

I'm gonna switch off interleaving and see if that helps gaming at all, otherwise I'll be switching to Pro.


This plan has been a huge disappointment so far, I can't see how this is good for anyone who does anything other than downloading and browsing the net, it's basically an uncapped 256k plan with bad ping.

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  #281946 13-Dec-2009 14:39
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Get interleaving turned off.

After than on...
- NZ gaming servers you should be seeing ~50ms in game
- AU gaming servers you should be seeing ~80-100ms in game

I would say normal tcp/ip connections to wow would are still being affected by traffic management rules.  Apparently they have made some changes to improve wow performance but I don't play wow so no idea how effective they were.

I would just use a ssh tunnelling service like wowtunnels, makes a huge difference.  I can't understand how anyone plays wow without using something like wowtunnels on an ISP.

I would not recommend Big Time to anyone who cares about real time media streaming from US servers or real time http downloads from US servers but I'm not having any problems with gaming on NZ or AU servers.

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  #281948 13-Dec-2009 14:43
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tardtasticx: I was at my mates house over the weekend, and friday night we were up till 4.30am and had a download going over utorrent, never went above 30kb/s. (the 30 was a spike for like 2 seconds then dropped back to 8 or so kb/s)


Are you using public trackers that aren't well seeded or were the people seeding all are limiting their upload rate?

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  #281955 13-Dec-2009 15:09
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Ragnor: Get interleaving turned off.

After than on...
- NZ gaming servers you should be seeing ~50ms in game
- AU gaming servers you should be seeing ~80-100ms in game

I would say normal tcp/ip connections to wow would are still being affected by traffic management rules.  Apparently they have made some changes to improve wow performance but I don't play wow so no idea how effective they were.

I would just use a ssh tunnelling service like wowtunnels, makes a huge difference.  I can't understand how anyone plays wow without using something like wowtunnels on an ISP.

I would not recommend Big Time to anyone who cares about real time media streaming from US servers or real time http downloads from US servers but I'm not having any problems with gaming on NZ or AU servers.





Well, I'm seeing 50ms with interleaving on, just for a few seconds then I drop. Also I tried WoW tunnels, and it sort of worked. This afternoon I haven't been able to connect to WoW at all (so a constant 10k+ ping), with wowtunnels on I get around 700-1000 ping.


If I can't get steam working then I'll have to switch, although it could be something else.


I'll mess around with my router settings and see if I can't improve anything

 
 
 
 

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  #281962 13-Dec-2009 15:43
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Oh I meant to write <50ms for NZ servers

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  #281965 13-Dec-2009 15:48
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Ragnor:
tardtasticx: I was at my mates house over the weekend, and friday night we were up till 4.30am and had a download going over utorrent, never went above 30kb/s. (the 30 was a spike for like 2 seconds then dropped back to 8 or so kb/s)


Are you using public trackers that aren't well seeded or were the people seeding all are limiting their upload rate?
it was connecting to about 50 seeds i think, and 8 or so had Verizon FiOs (Fiber connection). so it should have been going crazy fast. 

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  #281969 13-Dec-2009 16:20
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tardtasticx: I was at my mates house over the weekend, and friday night we were up till 4.30am and had a download going over utorrent, never went above 30kb/s. (the 30 was a spike for like 2 seconds then dropped back to 8 or so kb/s)

I have experienced this many times as well, and quite strangely, my friends who are also on Big Time had no problem torrenting at 800+KB/s. I really wonder if it's location dependant.

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  #281973 13-Dec-2009 17:09
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Crucius: So I've just moved into a new flat and we've got big time since we're all heavy internet users.
The problem is we're also gamers. It's been two days now and gaming is, for lack of a better term, post digestive leftovers.

WoW has an average ping of around 600 (up from 400 at my old place), spiking every 5 mins or so to 15000 (no typo)

Steam is the worst offender however.
A server might give a 50 ping at the lobby. Upon connection the ping is around 200, which drops at about 10 a second to around 70 at which point connection to the server is lost. It's the same for any of the source games and DoW II I think does the same thing, it's hard to tell, but I drop after 30 seconds to 2 minutes.


Streaming music at 128k bitrate is fine, but buffers every 10 mins or so for about 10 seconds.

Downloads during the day are around 20kB/s from any websites. 

Torrents max out at 3kB/s during the day, haven't looked to see their speeds off peak.

I'm gonna switch off interleaving and see if that helps gaming at all, otherwise I'll be switching to Pro.


This plan has been a huge disappointment so far, I can't see how this is good for anyone who does anything other than downloading and browsing the net, it's basically an uncapped 256k plan with bad ping.


Is anyone in your flat torrenting/using the internet while your trying to game?

What is most likely here (in my mind) is some one leaving some peer to peer application open which is causing you to get those ping spikes.

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