Telecom Big Time: new Telecom Broadband plans?

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#231546 6-Jul-2009 12:24

Talkiet:

I think we're agreeing about the 128k up thing... I have seen many people say that you can't download at faster than 4.5mbit BECAUSE OF THE 128k up. That is the patently false claim.

I don't dispute that you won't always get this - especially using torrents, or downloading with MANY threads because of the overheads involved in the protocol, and the increased number of threads requiring acks.

But 128k up does NOT intrinsicly limit users to just 4.5mbit down. Did you go see the site I linked at WAND which has a calculator to illustrate the theoretical limits for DL speed given ACK size / frequency, packet size and latency?

I think you will find that µTP is...UTP based :) so in theory as long as acknowledgement is handeled by the application intelligently then torrent performance should be pretty decent for a sane number of sessions. If implemented very intelligently then the client would perform analysis of the avalaible upstream and downstream bandwidth, individual peer performance etc to maximise throguhput with a minimum number of peers.

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#231611 6-Jul-2009 13:39

that last couple of months ive sold my soul back to telecom something I swore id never do again
I have changed the iphone to XT and today I have gone from vodafone 20GB to telecom big time
since vodafones 20gb isnt enough my data refreshed on saturday and what do ya know ive used the 20 already

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#231614 6-Jul-2009 13:40

Swindog: I wouldnt. Talk orcon into doin something the same.

Orcon aren't really competing on price at the moment, with Vodafone being much cheaper, plus the one advantage of Telecom is their habit of grandfathering their plans, so if any other companies match the BigTime plan I can see many of them dropping it if they see it as unprofitable, where Telecom (who I am unhappy to be returning to, but I'll be going from Vodafone so one evilempire to another) will probably be more likely to keep it going.

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#231625 6-Jul-2009 13:49

So many good news about the big time...I can't wait ...my connection still with Xnet...called Telecom to swich over today and it will take about 5days to change over....

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#231738 6-Jul-2009 18:01

According to the (admitelly possibly clueless) person in sales at telecom, despite having my own modem and not requiring an install, I'd still be locked into a 12 month contract with a $200 disconnection fee if I switched back to them.

I have to say I'm just not willing to risk this service being arse to do so. Bad form telecom, very bad form.

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#231755 6-Jul-2009 18:31

Lias: According to the (admitelly possibly clueless) person in sales at telecom, despite having my own modem and not requiring an install, I'd still be locked into a 12 month contract with a $200 disconnection fee if I switched back to them.

I have to say I'm just not willing to risk this service being arse to do so. Bad form telecom, very bad form.

same thing happened to me so I took the free modem to sell and atleast maybe recoup a couple of dollars

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#231768 6-Jul-2009 19:07

Well, I called up Telecom this morning @ 10:30ish and talked to the very friendly girl which because of my complex setup which Orcon completely failed on trying to install, passed me through to Telecom Tier 3.

The guy I spoke to confirmed the process of getting a phone line first, then porting the broadband from XNET so I wouldn't be without broadband for any period of time. He gave me a phone number then promised to call me back that afternoon.

They rejumpered my phone line at the exchange, and the guy called me back as promised!!! and said my phone line was working then asked since Big fun was not available until tomorrow if it was OK to call back tomorrow morning to go through the broadband signup.

I was impressed by the speed and efficiently that Telecom now operate under, it's a huge improvement from when I left them, a marked difference from Vodafone which won't return my calls and mis bill me and my current ISP which is just generally slow but with good support if I don't need help after 3pm on weekends.

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#231778 6-Jul-2009 19:44

Asmodeus: Hmmmm Im currently on Orcon silver with a 50GB datapack (55GB in total) and with a landline that costs me like $129 a month I think. I almost always use it all.. (mostly torrents)

Do I (re) sell my soul to Telecom...? That is the question

Orcon lost my business around 2 years ago. They didn't get their act together then and I"m sure they haven't got it together today; Telecom maybe the devil in the form of a corporation but atleast they do something if they royally cock things up.

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#231863 7-Jul-2009 08:05

Any total home people gone over to big time yet? My usage page still says Total Home + BB Adventure, and usage has not been reset which is what i would have expected to see.

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#231882 7-Jul-2009 08:45

Total Home still has Adventure avaliable, you wont be Automaticly switched over to Big Time. If you want big time you need to switch your Total Home add-ons.

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#231889 7-Jul-2009 08:59

naggyman: Total Home still has Adventure avaliable, you wont be Automaticly switched over to Big Time. If you want big time you need to switch your Total Home add-ons.

This is what I thought I had done.

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#232003 7-Jul-2009 13:11

I fell off my chair today, when Telecom called me back as promised to sign me up to Big Fun as they couldn't sign me up yesterday as it was not available.

I had to laugh, at the low expectations I have from Telco's now, that when one of them keeps the promises they make I am genuinely startled! I've been impressed with Telecom, nothing a drama, they offer good service and the people don't seem harrassed and worn down like other Telco's.

The lady was nice and my Big Fun will be connected on Friday hurrar!

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#232014 7-Jul-2009 13:26

Lias: According to the (admitelly possibly clueless) person in sales at telecom, despite having my own modem and not requiring an install, I'd still be locked into a 12 month contract with a $200 disconnection fee if I switched back to them.

I have to say I'm just not willing to risk this service being arse to do so. Bad form telecom, very bad form.

My current understanding is that once on Telecom they let you have 1 free plan change per month, so if you change to Big Time and find it too slow you can change to one of their regular plans.

You will still be under the original 12 month contract but it seems fairly low risk given you can change plan if Big Time is too slow.

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#232097 7-Jul-2009 15:57

if i change to bigtime before my next billing cycle will i be charged a new billing cycle for my current plan?

the bigtime plan is up on telecoms website
http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband
click on plans and pricing.

i cant find any fair use policy so it must be all you can eat. i wonder what would happen if everyone downloaded 100gb a month. will telecom introduce a fair use policy? telecom must have some big hard drives to cache files.

does anyone have a website? if you do and your on bigtime can you post the letter "B" on a page on your website then keep refreshing your browser to see when telecom cache expires. it may take you 30 minutes to see the letter "B".

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#232102 7-Jul-2009 16:05

Im not sure if I can put this here or not
Is there anyway to get around P2P shaping or is something like usenet a must?

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