GCSB declines Spark’s proposal to use Huawei 5G equipment

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#2136094 28-Nov-2018 16:21

I'm interested if there is any financial penalty for Spark for breaking the contract they have with Huawei for the supply of 5G equipment. Nothing is mentioned in their PR.

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#2136096 28-Nov-2018 16:22

Pretty sure this is going to be litigated till the cows come home.

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#2136099 28-Nov-2018 16:22

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I'm interested if there is any financial penalty for Spark for breaking the contract they have with Huawei for the supply of 5G equipment. Nothing is mentioned in their PR.

This has always been subjest to approvals around spectrum so I would say Spark are smart enough to also have a clause about TISCA is not a new act

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#2136104 28-Nov-2018 16:24

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I'm interested if there is any financial penalty for Spark for breaking the contract they have with Huawei for the supply of 5G equipment. Nothing is mentioned in their PR.

Spark should find new lawyers if there weren't some kind of 'in accordance with NZ laws' clause.

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#2136105 28-Nov-2018 16:25

networkn:

Pretty sure this is going to be litigated till the cows come home.

What, take the GCSB to court? I seriously doubt it can happen.

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#2136106 28-Nov-2018 16:26

TICSA's pretty clear about needing sign off on new kit/designs/vendors

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#2136111 28-Nov-2018 16:27

surfisup1000:

networkn:

Pretty sure this is going to be litigated till the cows come home.

What, take the GCSB to court? I seriously doubt it can happen.

I can't say I understand what legal avenues are available, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't SOME right of appeal.

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#2136113 28-Nov-2018 16:28

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I guess Huawei will shut up shop here. The infrastructure equipment is about the only product they are having any real success with.

I wonder if vodafone and spark will stop selling their phones?

For Huawei the phone sales are just a rounding error and they do not need a physical pressence here to sell them. Ingram Micro, Brightstar and Exeed can deal with that. The real money to support a pressence here was the Telco infrastructure equipments revenue. Their Enterprise equipment has not really made any great inroads with only Massey, Lincoln, The Warehouse Group and IHC being their only major wins. The CPEs can be handled by Ingram Micro, Brightstar and Exeed but again these are only low margin drops. None of this would support the pressence of BDMs, Engineers and Support staff in the country.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2136114 28-Nov-2018 16:28

It's hard to know with any of this spy stuff if there is any reason or just a bunch of political crap that makes no sense like this bloomberg story from ahem trusted sources:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/19/18000876/apple-tim-cook-retract-chinese-spy-chip-story-bloomberg

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#2136115 28-Nov-2018 16:28

U.S. asks allies to shun Huawei equipment, WSJ reports; sector stocks fall

(Reuters) - The U.S. government is trying to persuade wireless and internet providers in allied countries to avoid telecommunications equipment from China’s Huawei Technologies...

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#2136128 28-Nov-2018 16:37

I guess we have to keep our mates in the US happy... what a bloody joke..

Are they going to pull out large chunks of the UFB network too?!

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#2136186 28-Nov-2018 16:51

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I guess we have to keep our mates in the US happy... what a bloody joke..

Are they going to pull out large chunks of the UFB network too?!

I'd think this decision will eventually impact the UFB infrastructure too.

I'd suppose the natural question to ask would be whether you wish New Zealand to be allied to the USA or China?

We can import TV's from china and send them meat, but different rules need to apply when it comes to national security .

Look at the reaction in local Chinese papers against the Christchurch academic who had been studying chinese influence in the region.

I think the US are taking a pragmatic approach, Huawei might not be spying at present but there is a risk they could be coerced by the Chinese government to do so.