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  #380869 16-Sep-2010 20:51
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If you want broadband/phone run as a public good like roads, are you willing to have a much higher income tax rate or even higher GST to fund this?

I'm not.



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  #380870 16-Sep-2010 20:51
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BrettCooper:
matt45: As said in the other thread mentioned

ISP's could defiantly ease the issue by moving to a product with ethernet backhaul rather than ATM.


Telecom could also stop being such *removed by me( in forcing ISP's to pay for a pricier service when they themselves have capped the cheaper one to make it pretty much unusable at times. It wasnt until telecom started enforcing this limit on backhaul that it started to be a issue.

I blame labour, 1987, biggest mistake in NZ history. Give the telecommunications back to the government i say, let it be regulated in a PRICIER manner.


Well, that certainly is an ... interesting view you have, good luck with your complaint. 




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  #380871 16-Sep-2010 20:52
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Didn't it take 6 months to get a phone line connected back in the 80's.. fingers crossed there weren't too many strikes to hold everything up.



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  #380933 16-Sep-2010 22:15
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BrettCooper:
matt45: As said in the other thread mentioned

ISP's could defiantly ease the issue by moving to a product with ethernet backhaul rather than ATM.


Telecom could also stop being such *removed by me( in forcing ISP's to pay for a pricier service when they themselves have capped the cheaper one to make it pretty much unusable at times. It wasnt until telecom started enforcing this limit on backhaul that it started to be a issue.

I blame labour, 1987, biggest mistake in NZ history. Give the telecommunications back to the government i say, let it be regulated in a PRICIER manner.


Lets take a few deep breaths here.

You're obviously totally unaware that wholesale broadband connections are a regulated service - the Commerce Commission sets the price and the conditions of access. You should be contacting them if you see issues with regulated products.


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  #380964 16-Sep-2010 23:26
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sbiddle:
BrettCooper:
matt45: As said in the other thread mentioned

ISP's could defiantly ease the issue by moving to a product with ethernet backhaul rather than ATM.


Telecom could also stop being such *removed by me( in forcing ISP's to pay for a pricier service when they themselves have capped the cheaper one to make it pretty much unusable at times. It wasnt until telecom started enforcing this limit on backhaul that it started to be a issue.

I blame labour, 1987, biggest mistake in NZ history. Give the telecommunications back to the government i say, let it be regulated in a PRICIER manner.


Lets take a few deep breaths here.

You're obviously totally unaware that wholesale broadband connections are a regulated service - the Commerce Commission sets the price and the conditions of access. You should be contacting them if you see issues with regulated products.



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Telecom Retail buy there services off Telecom Wholesale on exactly the same conditions and pricing as everyone else.

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  #381173 17-Sep-2010 11:55
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so your saying that its fine? are you on a plan which has unlimited offpeak, and due to you being UBA or EUBA you are crapped on in these hours with substandard speeds which make you thinks the ISP is throttling you, when they aren't, as the LLU customers are getting upto 8mbps?

I am sure there are REASONS they do this, but doing it so tightly is making some people have sub standard internet.

As mentioned by previous posters, I know it's not my ISP, as others are getting WICKED speeds, one customer I have spoekn to in teh same area says he has no problems, but they arent on telecom gear, lucky him. Ever since the government forced telecom to unbundle the exchanges, they have started to put in all these restrictions to what, annoy other customers on isps? I bet the restrictions arent there for telecom customers aye... but then again, everyone knows what a rork telecom are..

I have said my peace, I know I am only going to hear about how "Great" telecom are from telecomites so  yea, thanks anyway

 
 
 
 

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  #381189 17-Sep-2010 12:09
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BrettCooper: so your saying that its fine? are you on a plan which has unlimited offpeak, and due to you being UBA or EUBA you are crapped on in these hours with substandard speeds which make you thinks the ISP is throttling you, when they aren't, as the LLU customers are getting upto 8mbps?

I am sure there are REASONS they do this, but doing it so tightly is making some people have sub standard internet.

As mentioned by previous posters, I know it's not my ISP, as others are getting WICKED speeds, one customer I have spoekn to in teh same area says he has no problems, but they arent on telecom gear, lucky him. Ever since the government forced telecom to unbundle the exchanges, they have started to put in all these restrictions to what, annoy other customers on isps? I bet the restrictions arent there for telecom customers aye... but then again, everyone knows what a rork telecom are..

I have said my peace, I know I am only going to hear about how "Great" telecom are from telecomites so  yea, thanks anyway


Ok, so yes, Telecom is pretty great :)




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  #381195 17-Sep-2010 12:17
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BrettCooper: so your saying that its fine? are you on a plan which has unlimited offpeak, and due to you being UBA or EUBA you are crapped on in these hours with substandard speeds which make you thinks the ISP is throttling you, when they aren't, as the LLU customers are getting upto 8mbps?

I am sure there are REASONS they do this, but doing it so tightly is making some people have sub standard internet.

As mentioned by previous posters, I know it's not my ISP, as others are getting WICKED speeds, one customer I have spoekn to in teh same area says he has no problems, but they arent on telecom gear, lucky him. Ever since the government forced telecom to unbundle the exchanges, they have started to put in all these restrictions to what, annoy other customers on isps? I bet the restrictions arent there for telecom customers aye... but then again, everyone knows what a rork telecom are..

I have said my peace, I know I am only going to hear about how "Great" telecom are from telecomites so  yea, thanks anyway


So you are going to ignore all the people who took time to try and explain and educate you and have a flounce instead, top work, have you considered a career as a Slingshot CSR?

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  #381196 17-Sep-2010 12:17
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I see there isn't much point in continuing this discussion. The reasons were explained but the OP decided to go name calling.





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