Changes to Xtra email - YOUR ACTION NEEDED

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#1652919 18-Oct-2016 14:29

Having never trusted the Yahoo move, I only use POP and SMTP with outlook as the client. So will wait and see what the new settings are before doing anything.

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#1652942 18-Oct-2016 14:57

From what I can determine, the "permission" process is the only way they can synchronise passwords with the existing service, as it appears everyone has to "reset" their password as part of the process?

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#1653089 18-Oct-2016 17:59

lyonrouge: From what I can determine, the "permission" process is the only way they can synchronise passwords with the existing service, as it appears everyone has to "reset" their password as part of the process?

I think it's just good housekeeping by Spark/Xtra. I followed the link when you give them permission, then skipped the password change. I had already changed it after the Yahoo hack just to be on the safe side so couldn't be bothered changing it again right now.

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#1653102 18-Oct-2016 18:18

lyonrouge: From what I can determine, the "permission" process is the only way they can synchronise passwords with the existing service, as it appears everyone has to "reset" their password as part of the process?

It wasn't, maybe it now is, but at the end of the day it's easy and well presented . I did an alias today and it required a password change, fine

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#1653107 18-Oct-2016 18:31

If yahoo had your password, then changing it is a damn good idea since they would probably leak it again.

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#1653111 18-Oct-2016 18:39

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A great time to transition off ISP provided email to something independent

Gmail , Outlook.com soooo many choices

Agreed, no reason to use anything else.

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#1653114 18-Oct-2016 19:07

lNomNoml:
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ajobbins:

A great time to transition off ISP provided email to something independent

Gmail , Outlook.com soooo many choices

Agreed, no reason to use anything else.

I take it that gmail and MS have never had issues?

A mate of mine hates Sony as they had issues. Gmail was in the news the other day. I've used Yahoo via Xtra , webmail. On my idevices it's been pseudo IMAP. Downtime for me has been un noticeable. I can only assume that Sky and Yahoo are the current flavour of the month to hate?

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#1653131 18-Oct-2016 19:44

Considering yahoo sat on their hack knowledge for so long and then also were busted pre-scanning email for some US govt thing, yeah deserved dislike of them.

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#1653136 18-Oct-2016 20:00

richms:
Considering yahoo sat on their hack knowledge for so long and then also were busted pre-scanning email for some US govt thing, yeah deserved dislike of them.

What's wrong if they pre scanned email for the US Govt? I'm not a terrorist so doesn't bother me and it may well offer help for intended victims

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#1653138 18-Oct-2016 20:10

richms:

Considering yahoo sat on their hack knowledge for so long and then also were busted pre-scanning email for some US govt thing, yeah deserved dislike of them.

As they say, the only crime is being caught doing it. I have no doubt the other main free email providers are helping the US govt.

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#1653141 18-Oct-2016 20:19

tdgeek:

What's wrong if they pre scanned email for the US Govt? I'm not a terrorist so doesn't bother me and it may well offer help for intended victims

When I hear that excuse it really saddens me that people think their privacy is worthless.

So you won't mind the govt listening to your phones calls, checking your bank accounts, intercepting your wireless traffic and internet in order to save us from terrorism?

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#1653147 18-Oct-2016 20:25

Back on the topic... I received a letter from Spark regarding this move, even though my Xtra email account was closed many, many years ago.

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#1653148 18-Oct-2016 20:26

cynnicallemon:

tdgeek:

What's wrong if they pre scanned email for the US Govt? I'm not a terrorist so doesn't bother me and it may well offer help for intended victims

When I hear that excuse it really saddens me that people think their privacy is worthless.

So you won't mind the govt listening to your phones calls, checking your bank accounts, intercepting your wireless traffic and internet in order to save us from terrorism?

The Govt can listen to phone calls via using the law to ask a Telco to disclose. A teller can check your bank account. You want to use the CGA to protect your purchase, you want the Govt to have access to free trade for all our benefits, but protecting against terrorism by viewing your emails that you send to your mate in Matamata is a problem?

If you want that privacy, then EVERYTHING is private. You cannot have it both ways. Too much P.C. and too little common sense.

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#1653153 18-Oct-2016 20:36

cynnicallemon:

richms:

Considering yahoo sat on their hack knowledge for so long and then also were busted pre-scanning email for some US govt thing, yeah deserved dislike of them.

As they say, the only crime is being caught doing it. I have no doubt the other main free email providers are helping the US govt.

I agree. There are a mere few global, public email providers. There are many many more smaller email providers. Being IT, they will or can have issues.

If there is an email provider that is guaranteed from issues, cool. But the reality is many of us don't care as it wont affect us. Email is very reliable, like anything, issues can

happen. Thats why we have warranties or SLA's or T+C's. Its just email. AS long as its not lost in the ether, I'm fine with that. My income, purchases, legal issues, etc, etc are all mainly not private, someone knows, especially the Govt. But as I don't need to hide under a rock, with a Smith and Wesson at the ready, I'm ok with that. If I was a substance dealer as mentioned in NZ news. or a terrorist, I might be worried, and I'm very ok with that. Its about balance.

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#1653155 18-Oct-2016 20:36

freitasm:

Back on the topic... I received a letter from Spark regarding this move, even though my Xtra email account was closed many, many years ago.

Like you I had one of those accounts years ago which I logged into once just to check it. Never touched it again as Yahoo had always had a bad reputation with email security. When Xtra moved to them I knew it would all end in tears.

As they say, when a product/service is free, you are the product/service.

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