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Topic # 111309 30-Oct-2012 08:40
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I'm predicting attempting this would be more trouble that it's worth; however...

Scenario (numbers are obviously placholders for sake of demonstrating concept):

Sim A: #1234 Telecom XT

Sim B: #6789 2degrees

If one lodged simultaneous porting requests to transfer XT #1234 onto Sim B and 2D #6789 onto Sim A would the porting succeed?

Or does the act of moving a number off the 'Sim' (sim account) deactivate the account and make it ineligible to accept a port?

All input appreciated :)

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  Reply # 708894 30-Oct-2012 08:43
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A Port will deactivate a connection so what you want to do is not possible

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  Reply # 709129 30-Oct-2012 13:21
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The issue you will find is in the 2D System.

Once they have disabled a sim card you can't reconnect it ever again and you will need to purchase a new sim card.

With Telecom you can reconnect a disconnected sim without an issue as prepaid or attach it to an account.

You may just need to go buy a new XT Sim ($5) and 2D sim to perform the complete porting process.

Depending on what sort of number it is things can be done under the hood... But not usually done following the proper process.  It also depends on if the number you are porting from's donor carrier (ie if it's a 027, 021,022 etc) and where it's going.  Since reconnecting a 027 if it gets disconnected on XT is easy, if it's a 022 on XT it's returned to 2D when it gets disconnected.


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  Reply # 709149 30-Oct-2012 13:35
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Someone from 2degrees support explained that the existing number gets another put on top of it. When i was porting another number onto an existing 2degrees sim.
They said for the account youd have the original 022, then an 021 i ported onto it, and then an 027 we ported onto it later on. I asked if the 021 would be available to port elsewhere or put on a new sim. They said it wasn't, it stays part of the account and the 027 number "sits on top of it". I had them confirm the number doesn't get released back to vodafone, it basically disappears and is useless. He also confirmed the 022 number doesn't get put back in their own number pool.

This assumes the information given to me is correct however.

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  Reply # 709404 30-Oct-2012 19:55
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Sounds a bit unusual to me but might be worth checking with SaltyNZ as he's a 2Der.

If you email me pl at telecom dot co dot nz with both numbers I'll see what can be done.

But I still think it will be cheaper to buy new sim cards.

Depends on the sort of accounts you have with both providers.

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  Reply # 709414 30-Oct-2012 20:07
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Yeah i thought it sounded very odd as well. Would be nice to get some confirmation of what actually happens.

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  Reply # 709512 30-Oct-2012 22:06
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I'm 99.9% sure the easiest option will be to purchase a new XT Sim ($5) and a 2D Sim ($10) and just do the ports over to the new sim.  Then you could go and get a new number assigned to your disconnected XT Sim.  Pretty sure you can't go and get them reconnected after they are out-ported.

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