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# 12353 13-Mar-2007 09:38
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What CDMA Handsets are number Portability capible?

I heard it was only a limited number of current handsets.
Can anyone confirm which one are capable? or is this coverd by some nda?

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  # 63542 13-Mar-2007 09:58
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It has nothing to do with the phone type, it's simply the phone number that's ported between networks.

Virtually every phone number in the country can be ported to another provider from the 1st April - obviousl if you have a 021 or 027 handset you'll have to buy a new phone however to change between CDMA and GSM/UMTS.




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  # 63547 13-Mar-2007 10:19
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I relise that it can be any 021 number ported to Telecom any 027 to Vodafone network.

What my question was, I have been told that if you have an 021 number you want to bring to Telecom you *must* have a new Telecom CDMA handset (which supports number portablility) as the older ones dont support number portability.

This will manily affect Prepaid users wanting to use an existing CDMA hadset (say a handme down or second hand) with their 021 number, as they will have to purchase a new Handset (which supports number portablility) to get their 021 number to Telecoms network.

 
 
 
 


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  # 63554 13-Mar-2007 11:00
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Nope - any phone will do - http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,205250-200447,00.html as long as it's a CDMA (027) phone.  The old 025 network is being shut down and no old 025 analogue phones will work, regardless of number portability.








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  # 63556 13-Mar-2007 11:21
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I’m obviously having a **** day explaining myself.

What I’m talking about is what Telecom CDMA handset models are able to be used with number portability, not what the number coming over is.

I was informally told that only a few (9 or so) Current CDMA handset could be used with number portability.

I can’t see anywhere on the link any mention of which CDMA models are able to be used with number portability.


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  # 63557 13-Mar-2007 11:28
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I'll copy and paste then:

"And it doesn't matter if you're on prepay or on account. You'll be able to choose any Telecom mobile, on the plan you want, and we'll have you up and running with the same 021 or 029 number."





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  # 63559 13-Mar-2007 11:35
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Doh... Thanks JonC

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  # 63562 13-Mar-2007 12:29
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pcruthven: Doh... Thanks JonC


Actually... it's not quite as it seems. In the future, you *will* be able to pick any mobile you like, but from Telecom's current range of mobile phones there are quite a few that are actually incompatible with Number Portability. The reason is, these particular handsets will not allow you to program them as an '021' number, they just won't accept it. All mobiles released from here onwards will support 021 numbers but right now the range is quite limited.

Steve

 
 
 
 


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  # 63565 13-Mar-2007 12:40
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Apologies to pcruthven.

I hadn't realised that - how bizarre that a phone can't be programmed to an 021 number.  This must be something Telecom did to them when they ordered / imported them as obviously not all CDMA phones world-wide have numbers beginning with 027.

Makes their web-site seem a bit misleading....



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  # 63570 13-Mar-2007 13:09
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Steve, any idea which current phones?
(Is the Sanyo 7500 or Treo 700wx included?)

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  # 63572 13-Mar-2007 13:24
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pcruthven: Steve, any idea which current phones?
(Is the Sanyo 7500 or Treo 700wx included?)


Unsure, I would suggest giving Telecom a ring on or after 01/04 when all can be revealed!

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# 63597 13-Mar-2007 16:57
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The standard MIN will probably be the same but some are locked down..

I know for a fact, my Samsung w531 allows any number programming but many (nokia especially) are locked to 027xxxxxxx


Hold fire, i'll compile a list and post up over the next while.

Pretty sure all Nokias before the 6265 and all Sanyo's are pretty well locked down but do not quote this, No doubt more recent higher-end phones might have an "update" avilable in due course.

Many of the really old ones will accept any number.

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  # 63601 13-Mar-2007 17:10
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Don't forget that the phone must support an 11 digit MDN as well.

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  # 63602 13-Mar-2007 17:11
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pcruthven: What CDMA Handsets are number Portability capible?

I heard it was only a limited number of current handsets.
Can anyone confirm which one are capable? or is this coverd by some nda?


Correct, some handsets do not support 9 digits, such as the Nokia 2355. I can't find my list but I can name a few handsets that are compatible. As far as I know these handsets are compatible at soft lunch, but as of April 1 more could be added.

Samsung W531
Nokia 2355 (does not aupport 9 digits)
Nokia 2865
Sanyo 6600
Nokia 2855
Nokia 6165
Nokia 6275
Sanyo 8400 (no P2T)
Pantech TX1000c


nzbnw

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# 63627 13-Mar-2007 19:14
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I'd post a gigantic full list here but this is probably being crawled by Vodafone's teams right now and I wouldn't want them to have the pleasure of an easy list! I'll wait till it's tried and tested too... much easier.

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  # 63629 13-Mar-2007 19:16
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So with their website saying "You'll be able to choose any Telecom mobile", does this mean that they're going to stop selling ones that aren't NP-compatible? Given the phone-list from nzbnw, this would narrow the phone selection somewhat...

[EDIT] Oh, I see, these are just the soft-launch ones - the rest are yet to be tested...  So I guess if you've got a phone that's not currently for sale (from April 1) then it's not guaranteed to be NP-compatible?



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