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Topic # 129242 8-Sep-2013 16:33
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Hi there all the way from Napier, the part i live in is 3 yrs away from fb  i have just received a telecom pamphlet on vdsl What id like to know is that i see you cant have interleave off for gaming,but does the better quality connect outweigh the  xtra ping ??     secondly the vdsl router/modem or whatever are they wireless?  or can your old adsl wireless be used with it?  need wireless for tv and lappy.

If there anything else youd like to throw in the mix  much appreciated      phil

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  Reply # 891697 8-Sep-2013 16:59
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"Hi there all the way from Napier, the part i live in is 3 yrs away from fb"

Sorry, what?

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  Reply # 891699 8-Sep-2013 17:07
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The modems are indeed Wireless, 802.11 B/G/N 2.4GHz to be exact. Since VDSL works far differently from ADSL interleaving can't be turned off but that extra 5-10ms ping won't get you killed on online gaming. Do you know how far away from the cabinet you are or able to share an approx address?





 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 891701 8-Sep-2013 17:09
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He lives in Napier and is 3 years away from UFB?

To answer you questions: DLM1 is pretty much equivalent to interleaving off ADSL in terms of latency. For example mine is current 5\6ms to most speedtest hosts around Auckland\Wellington. The next set of DLM profiles which use 8ms interleaving profiles won't really add much noticable in terms of latency even when gaming. IMO the increase is throughput is well well worth it even if you're not on DLM1.

Yes most of the VDSL modem\routers supplied by ISP have wireless.



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  Reply # 891702 8-Sep-2013 17:10
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i think the cabinet is about 200 mtrs away that would be the cabinet they did for adsl2 by memory.

so do think the actual gaming experience may be better than adsl regardless of ping? many thanx phil

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  Reply # 891703 8-Sep-2013 17:13
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xmanz: i think the cabinet is about 200 mtrs away that would be the cabinet they did for adsl2 by memory.

so do think the actual gaming experience may be better than adsl regardless of ping? many thanx phil


If you're 200m from the cabinet you should be able to get onto DLM1 so about 6-10ms ping average to NZ hosts (perfect for online gaming) - Even if VDSL is on DLM2/3 it's still perfectly fine for online gaming, in fact I'd say it's better due to the increased upload speed.

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  Reply # 891705 8-Sep-2013 17:19
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thank you for your input i think my mind has now swayed to vdsl phil

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  Reply # 891707 8-Sep-2013 17:20
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I had interleave turned off on ADSL2.  With VDSL my latency is lower.

Pinging ftp.citylink.co.nz [202.7.6.9] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 202.7.6.9: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=60
Reply from 202.7.6.9: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
Reply from 202.7.6.9: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=60
Reply from 202.7.6.9: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=60

I'm with Snap, was with Slingshot on ADSL2. And Im quite a distance from the cabinet - 900m by my guestimation.  VDSL syncs at 30/10.



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  Reply # 891709 8-Sep-2013 17:22
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yes the three years comes from chorus website i am in the greyed area which it says is 3 yrs away they have reticulated down each side of us, but nothing inside of that phil

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  Reply # 891714 8-Sep-2013 17:32
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I'm with Telecom on VDSL about 600m from the cabinet and sync at 38mbit down, 10mbit up (it's still the early stages of VDSL for me) - ping is perfectly fine. Games are designed to handle even higher ping these days so it shouldn't be something to be too concerned about.

 

mmurphy@charmander:~$ ping debian.ihug.co.nz

 

PING mirror.ihug.co.nz (203.109.134.101) 56(84) bytes of data.

 

64 bytes from mirror.ihug.co.nz (203.109.134.101): icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=35.7 ms

 

64 bytes from mirror.ihug.co.nz (203.109.134.101): icmp_req=2 ttl=56 time=35.2 ms

 

64 bytes from mirror.ihug.co.nz (203.109.134.101): icmp_req=3 ttl=56 time=34.8 ms

 

64 bytes from mirror.ihug.co.nz (203.109.134.101): icmp_req=4 ttl=56 time=35.7 ms

 

^C

 

--- mirror.ihug.co.nz ping statistics ---

 

4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3000ms

 

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.874/35.423/35.779/0.424 ms

 





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