Telecom "Naked" DSL still partly clothed?

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stevenz

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#138618 10-Jan-2014 16:07

The boss man here is trying to get VDSL installed at home.

He has a Vodafone cellphone (due to a business contract).

He does _not_ want a landline as he's basically surgically attached to his iPhone anyway.

He's been told he can NOT have naked DSL unless he has a Telecom account of _some_ form, which means either a) being forced into getting a landline, or b) being forced into getting a 2nd (useless) cellphone plan.

Now, I've only heard his side of this, but surely this isn't the case? Is it just that Telecom's billing system doesn't support not having a phone number to link to?

Nothing about this is mentioned in an obvious fashion on the eligiblity page: http://help.telecom.co.nz/app/answers/detail/a_id/33693

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#964708 10-Jan-2014 16:12

To be on a naked plan you need to have a mobile plan.

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#964724 10-Jan-2014 16:23

Nothing to do with any systems limitation. Think of it like a package deal. You with have it with a mobile or a landline.

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#964727 10-Jan-2014 16:28

Not sure about the "Naked" descriptor then, as (to me at least) it generally implies broadband and nothing else as opposed to it indirectly still being a bundle.

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#964822 10-Jan-2014 17:59

Perhaps he could consider www.bigpipe.co.nz a subsidiary of Telecom and no term contracts but he would have to supply his own modem and wiring master filter if needed.

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#964833 10-Jan-2014 18:13

Unfortunately Vodafone and Telecom "naked" means broadband plan with no landline or voip line but "requires a mobile plan"

"Naked" broadband is a subjective marketing term different ISP's use it to mean different things.

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#964879 10-Jan-2014 19:37

Telecom do not buy the Naked product from Chorus.
If you order "Naked" Broadband, it will still have a telephone number assigned and will still be provisioned in the normal way, but he will have a calling bar and a discount applied to it.

The Naked offer is only available with a mobile connection though.

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#964887 10-Jan-2014 19:55

Jarsky: Telecom do not buy the Naked product from Chorus.
If you order "Naked" Broadband, it will still have a telephone number assigned and will still be provisioned in the normal way, but he will have a calling bar and a discount applied to it.

The Naked offer is only available with a mobile connection though.

Telecom cant buy naked product from Chorus to my understanding as it falls under UCLL products which we cannot buy for another while now

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#965104 11-Jan-2014 14:01

cbrpilot: Nothing to do with any systems limitation. Think of it like a package deal. You with have it with a mobile or a landline.

When Telecom announced their 'Naked' plans was technical limitations not the reason cited?

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#965903 13-Jan-2014 09:48

Ragnor: Unfortunately Vodafone and Telecom "naked" means broadband plan with no landline or voip line but "requires a mobile plan"

"Naked" broadband is a subjective marketing term different ISP's use it to mean different things.

You don't require an On Account mobile plan for Vodafone naked broadband, but you do get a discount if you have one & link the two accounts together. :)

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#965936 13-Jan-2014 10:13

Ragnor: Unfortunately Vodafone and Telecom "naked" means broadband plan with no landline or voip line but "requires a mobile plan"

Incorrect as Nik has pointed out above

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#965971 13-Jan-2014 10:44

chevrolux:
cbrpilot: Nothing to do with any systems limitation. Think of it like a package deal. You with have it with a mobile or a landline.

When Telecom announced their 'Naked' plans was technical limitations not the reason cited?

Many years ago ICMS could only identify customers by phone number, which meant that offering a "naked" option was not possible. Apparently this is no longer the case.

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#966047 13-Jan-2014 11:43

sbiddle:
chevrolux:
cbrpilot: Nothing to do with any systems limitation. Think of it like a package deal. You with have it with a mobile or a landline.

When Telecom announced their 'Naked' plans was technical limitations not the reason cited?

Many years ago ICMS could only identify customers by phone number, which meant that offering a "naked" option was not possible. Apparently this is no longer the case.

To be clear here, the OP asked about why you either had to take the naked DSL service as part of a package of full POTS (in which case it's not naked - so I won't talk about this option any further) or a mobile plan. The bundling with a mobile plan is not a technical limitation of any sort.

When the "Naked" broadband is created, we still assign it a POTS number. And we pretty much disable the POTS service on that line. The fact that we do this is unrelated to the fact that we chose to sell it as a package with a mobile service.

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