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old3eyes

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#154871 11-Nov-2014 10:16
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Looks like I'm going to be able to connect to fiber in my Tauranga house in the new years.  It's being laid at present.  As I'm going to keep spark as my ISP  do they supply a phone  connection  to the ONT or do I still have to have a coper fed analog??




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  #1172671 11-Nov-2014 10:23
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Still copper voice for now, but not terribly long before it will be transferred to being off the ONT.




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  #1172695 11-Nov-2014 10:56
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which one is more fragile overall - copper or fibre?




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  #1172715 11-Nov-2014 11:27
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Difficult question to answer at this stage.
From the voice server perspective you'd have to say the copper service as it has been around for a very long time and is very stable and mature when compared to any VOIP technology.
But from an access medium technology you'd have to say that fibre is more reliable as it is unaffected by corrosion, weather and RFI.
How these two balance out remains to be seen.




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  #1172716 11-Nov-2014 11:27
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i'll guess

fibre - fragile

copper - rock solid 





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  #1180661 21-Nov-2014 11:33
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cbrpilot: Still copper voice for now, but not terribly long before it will be transferred to being off the ONT.


Any chance of an ETA perhaps ? Am hoping for fibre soon and VoIP generally seems to be cheaper that UFB plus POTS.




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  #1180688 21-Nov-2014 12:12
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Copper will work in a power outage. Fibre should or might, if you have a UPS.

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  #1180703 21-Nov-2014 12:41
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timmmay: Copper will work in a power outage. Fibre should or might, if you have a UPS.


Very true, but if I read cbrpilot right, sounds like its going to be happening anyway, so was just wondering when.

Can't decide if I'd like to keep POTS, with its inbuilt power supply, or do VoIP, which seems to be cheaper, from what I can glean from other posts. I'm on Spark, and would like (though probably don't need)  their 100/50 unlimited plan, but can't bring myself to part with $139pm for it. That maybe because I'm cheap...




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  #1180726 21-Nov-2014 13:33
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rb99:
cbrpilot: Still copper voice for now, but not terribly long before it will be transferred to being off the ONT.


Any chance of an ETA perhaps ? Am hoping for fibre soon and VoIP generally seems to be cheaper that UFB plus POTS.


Unfortunately launch dates for any new feature by any ISP are always commerically sensitive.   I really want to be up front with you, but I just can't say in a public forum.
Hopefully I will get away with saying that it is not imminent.  It is in the pipeline and is getting towards the business end of being ready, but I just can't give you a date. 
We're dying to get it out there, but we're just going to have to ask everyone to have a little more patience.  There is a huge amount of work going on internally at Spark in this space, most of which you'll never see (e.g. platform replacements, upgrades and the like), and we're working really hard to get this out as soon as we can.




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  #1181024 21-Nov-2014 20:47
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rb99:
timmmay: Copper will work in a power outage. Fibre should or might, if you have a UPS.


Very true, but if I read cbrpilot right, sounds like its going to be happening anyway, so was just wondering when.

Can't decide if I'd like to keep POTS, with its inbuilt power supply, or do VoIP, which seems to be cheaper, from what I can glean from other posts. I'm on Spark, and would like (though probably don't need)  their 100/50 unlimited plan, but can't bring myself to part with $139pm for it. That maybe because I'm cheap...


I'd probably get purchase a UPS just to be sure - If you end up getting a good UPS it'll provide you with more than enough power to get you through the power outage.




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  #1181028 21-Nov-2014 21:01
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you can always port your number to a VOip provider like 2talk, if your xDSL modem has a phone port on it it's simply a matter of making the right settings and plugging your usual land like phone right in to it, if you don't have a phone port there are a couple of options either buy a SIP adaptor or a dedicated VOip phone that plugs into your ethernet network

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  #1181044 21-Nov-2014 21:58
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Fiber will be better than copper for staying up in an outage as you are not reliant on the batteries in the cabinet to keep going, whereas fiber is passive all the way back to the exchange which has generators.

And both are better than cable which has amplifiers all thru it which dont have any power back up so as soon as the power is out you lose connectivity.




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Another thing to note is that when you go to VoIP, your traditional alarm monitoring will not work.

The days of dialup monitoring are coming to an end....

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  #1181112 22-Nov-2014 06:45
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NZSpides: Another thing to note is that when you go to VoIP, your traditional alarm monitoring will not work.

The days of dialup monitoring are coming to an end....


And Sky TV dialup..




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  #1181129 22-Nov-2014 08:06
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old3eyes:
NZSpides: Another thing to note is that when you go to VoIP, your traditional alarm monitoring will not work.

The days of dialup monitoring are coming to an end....


And Sky TV dialup..


I would have expected at this stage SkyTV would have moved to taking advantage of the ethernet port they have on their sky decoders :-/




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  #1181316 22-Nov-2014 16:37
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kawaii:
old3eyes:
NZSpides: Another thing to note is that when you go to VoIP, your traditional alarm monitoring will not work.

The days of dialup monitoring are coming to an end....


And Sky TV dialup..


I would have expected at this stage SkyTV would have moved to taking advantage of the ethernet port they have on their sky decoders :-/


Only on the MySky.  There are plenty of old types around with dialup access..




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