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#156052 17-Nov-2014 21:28
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Hi

Just joined to big pipe VDSL this week.  Fibre is not available in my area.

This is a rental property.  There is one jack point downstairs and one jack point upstairs.  I do not have an alarm, phone line, or any other services that use the connection.  I only have my draytek vigor 130 modem plugged into the phone jack.  My PC is currently connected directly to the vigor modem.

My VDSL speed test is consistently
17.5 UP / 3.5 DOWN

The townhouse is probably built in the 80s.  I assume that the likely reason I won't connect any faster is probably the internal wiring.  I'd prefer not to get the rental property rewired, and it maybe pointless with fibre coming in the next 12-24 months anyway.

My question is:

If I changed to ADSL2+ would I likely get a similar speed.  VDSL plan (20-60 DOWN) is $89/mo, ADSL plan (5-20 DOWN) is $79/mo.  Am I paying $10 extra for no reason?

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  #1177599 17-Nov-2014 21:34
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I'm getting your exact speed.

The way I see it my up speed is 4x faster. That is a lot to me. But only you can say whether it's worth $10 more.



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  #1177600 17-Nov-2014 21:36
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You don't mention a master filter - do you have one?
What is your downstream attenuation?
This may give us some idea of why your VDSL speeds are borderline.

 

 




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  #1177601 17-Nov-2014 21:37
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Up: 3588 Kbps / SNR: 12 (0.1dB)
Dn: 18596 Kbps / SNR: 12 (0.1dB)

How can I tell if I have a master splitter?




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  #1177613 17-Nov-2014 21:44
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kiwijunglist: How can I tell if I have a master splitter?


If you didn't get one installed, you probably don't have one. (1980's house)
Most people believe that a master filter should be mandatory for a VDSL install (but BigPipe do not provide them)




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  #1177657 17-Nov-2014 22:20
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80s house will probably have old master and extension wiring too, which is really bad for *dsl.

Slow upload can also be street wiring. I get this on one of my connections:

 

 

 

 

B0 Line Rate - Upstream (Kbps):

 

3978

 

 

 

B0 Line Rate - Downstream (Kbps):

 

19320

 

 

 

 


And thats with the "best of a bad lot" of remaining pairs in the cables.

My other connection here gets

 

 

 

 

B0 Line Rate - Upstream (Kbps):

 

10342

 

 

 

B0 Line Rate - Downstream (Kbps):

 

21350

 

 

 

 


and being the same house, its the same distance from the cabinet.

Only internal wiring is a couple of RJ45 jacks straight on the end of the lead in cable.




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  #1177662 17-Nov-2014 22:24
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Will I loose download speed if I switch from VDSL to ADSL2+ the ADSL plan states 5-20Mbps and I'm currently getting 17Mbps on VDSL.




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  #1177664 17-Nov-2014 22:28
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Yes, as you will be losing upload speed and adsl will sync lower on the same line. How much you lose varys, but you are paying $10 for 4x more speed which (unless you never ever skype, send emails, upload photos or video etc) is well worth it.




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  #1177668 17-Nov-2014 22:31
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kiwijunglist: My VDSL speed test is consistently 17.5 UP / 3.5 DOWN


Presumably you mean the other way round, which would match your line speeds.





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