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Topic # 17438 27-Nov-2007 10:22
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Unfortunately my old telecom phone got stolen early on sunday morning, now I'm in the market to get another phone from telecom I'm mainly narrowed it down to trying to decide between Okta Touch ($800) or the Sanyo M1 (I'll be able to get it for a little less than $500, which gives this option an edge as it is a tad cheaper than its current retail of $599). Also considered the Okta Agent, but I feel the $200 difference between that and the Okta Touch is worth it? The more expensive models (such as the Okta Boss) I felt were far too expensive to be worth it, and were not really that much better anyway.

I'd certainly leap for the Okta Touch right away if it wasn't quite so expensive, it just makes me a little hesistent (although I probably would have purchased it yesterday.... except the last one at the shop had been sold only 20 minutes before I arrived).

As I'd primarly use my phone for txting (nearly every month I'm sending close to the 500 txts that you get with the $10 deal), I am wondering about the Okta Touch as it is missing a keyboard. But the touch screen is still meant to be just as fast, is that other people's experience? Any other possible reason why not to get the Okta Touch? It is lacking WiFi, anyway to resolve that?

Also, which if any of these phones has flash? As I'm most likely to be taking photos at night (on friday's & saturday's), than day time.

The main reason I'm looking at getting a higher end phone than I've used in the past (previously I've poor starving student, hence why I'd get low/mid-range phones. Now as a graduate I have cash... on odd state of affairs), is because I want to be able to copy my contacts off my phone onto a PC (hated losing my hundreds and hundreds of numbers that were on my old phone) and to be able to copy txt messages onto a PC (is handy to be able to keep a record of them, my previous phone could only have 50 messages in the inbox before I'd have to start deleting messages. Don't like deleting stuff at all). Is the Sanyo M1 able to do all this? What other phones other than the Okta phones can do this as well?

Thanks,

David.




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  Reply # 97342 28-Nov-2007 13:47
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  Reply # 97353 28-Nov-2007 15:10
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The Okta Touch is worth the $200 difference compared to the Okta Agent.

As to the M1, depends if you want a phone or a PDA, you should have a good look at both before hand.

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  Reply # 97356 28-Nov-2007 15:37
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in your situation, i would go for the sanyo m1
i believe it holds up to 500 texts (inbox/outbox)
if you were to buy the okta touch, u should only buy it if your going to use it for all the functions it delivers or its full potential
m1 is your best choice of mobile
i would imagine m1 is best for taking pictures
anyways, goodluck with choice





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  Reply # 97364 28-Nov-2007 16:13
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I'd possibily go for the M1, because I do mainly want a phone... but some of the features I want I suspect are only available with PDA style phones. Such as, can the M1 copy the txts messages and contacts onto a PC? I believe it can't, but would like it confirmed? (500txts would get filled up in no time at all, thus why it would be handy to be able to store them on a PC)

Also, my other key point is wondering how well the Touch works for txting. As it doesn't have a keyboard, however what I've been told is that intially no but once you have got the hang of the touch screen it is just as fast if not even faster (was told this by the highly reliable source which is a telecom retail consultant.... though, at least he does own and use one himself, so I suppose so).

Oh, and the other point of concern I have (though a far more minor point compared to the others I've mentioned) is that the Touch doesn't have WiFi (though the GSM version does, why remove it?!?! Oh well...). Which would mean I couldn't take advantage of the vastly cheaper WiFi hotspots for accessing the internet. No other alternative exists for internet access on the go other than the very expexpensive mobile plans, perhaps a bluetooth WiFi device? If such a thing exists?!




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  Reply # 97372 28-Nov-2007 17:28
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sanyo M1 mate... you wont regret it, i have one and want another!,, strong, reliable roust, way more functions than other mobiles. picture clarity is amazing  and with 1 GB onboard you have plenty of depth. also push # key when viewing vids or pics and it goes widescreen . you can also select view options re no tool menus or clutter just bare picture.



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  Reply # 97383 28-Nov-2007 18:13
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What limits are there in what you can transfer back across to your PC, I pressume you can copy back and forth the photos. But what about the contacts and txt messages?




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  Reply # 97387 28-Nov-2007 18:21
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dman: Oh, and the other point of concern I have (though a far more minor point compared to the others I've mentioned) is that the Touch doesn't have WiFi (though the GSM version does, why remove it?!?! Oh well...).


Yes, but the GSM Touch (not Touch Dual) only has 2G data speeds, which will be more important to most IMHO.

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  Reply # 97392 28-Nov-2007 18:40
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When you figure out how to copy the address book from the M1 to your computer, please tell me!  My M1 doesn't do justice to the colours of the work I have just completed when taking photos at night with the flash...  My purples aren't very purple!!!  (Iwould send you a photo of the purple, beaded christmas stocking I just finished for my 21 year old, but as I said, the colours are not really very vibrant.)  My daytime, full sunshine pics are excellent, though.

But I still want an Okta touch...

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  Reply # 97393 28-Nov-2007 18:47
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Okta Agent
Dont bother. Old looking. Ugly. Big aerial. Yuck.

Okta Boss
Not worth the $1k IMO. Should be $599. Feels VERY chunky. Doesnt feel overly well built. Would have any current PDA except the Agent, instead of this.

Sanyo M1
No easy way to transfer contacts or txts to pc.
Photos transfer extremely easily at full quality - bluetooth or USB or online gallery.
Camera is better quality than the Okta, but still not a 'real camera'.
Has MMS.
Smaller profile than Okta (though way thicker).
Best if you want a "phone".
Best for texting (probably if you do more than say ~100 a month).
MP3 player - good volume and quality. Music player UI is sub-par.
Bluetooth file transfer. (Most BT Sanyos dont do bluetooth transfers - normally audio only)

Okta Touch
Okay for texting, but no tactile feel to keypresses is odd. If I texted more than the approx 100 a month I do now, I wouldnt have it as my primary phone.
Beautifully thin (like moi).
Cheapest 3G Windows Mobile touch-screen PDA phone in New Zealand ever. (And probably the best, if no physical keyboard doesnt bother you)
WM6 (latest OS).
Good design in and out.
Best if you want good email support.
Camera average for a phone/pda. 2MP, but not as good as M1's unit (also 2MP).
No MMS
Tens of thousands of 3rd party apps, many of which will copy/sync texts to PC.
Photo transfers to PC are a breeze.
Sync with Outlook (or better yet, get a hosted exchange account), and all your tasks, notes, calendar, emails and contacts are all backed up and synced.

I had an M1. Nice, but chunky. Ditched it for my W531 (simply as a spare pocketable normal phone). I also had an HTC Titan - brilliant phone+pda and great keyboard. Gave it to my missus when the Touch came out.

The Touch is just *great*.









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  Reply # 97409 28-Nov-2007 19:43
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Thanks Tony for the detailed summary.

Was already leaning towards the Touch. Now feeling even more favourable towards it when compared to the M1. The only key factor holding me back would be the hundreds of txts per month that I'm sending...   hmm....    although the lack of a tactile sensation when pressing feels odd, this would with time not impact the performance as you get used to it perhaps?




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  Reply # 97410 28-Nov-2007 19:50
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Im getting faster at it... only had it a month or so, so I guess its not to fair to it to say more than 100 a month would be a deal breaker, but you will definitley be slower for a while!!

HTCs own phone-type onscreen keyboard is pretty good... and the predictive text is probably the best I have ever used.









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  Reply # 97489 29-Nov-2007 10:28
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Is there any way for the Okta Touch to access the internet other than through the expensive data charges which Telecom imposes? (Telecom's only phone with WiFi is the HTC Titan, which is also their most expensive phone... hmm...) For instance my laptop has Bluetooth, so could I access the internet with the Touch through the laptop? But what if I'm not at home and can't use the laptop, does such a thing as a WiFi Bluetooth device exist? (i.e. a little Bluetooth device that can access the WiFi network... or alternatively via the mini-usb could attach WiFi? What are the options?)

Decided I should repost it to the Okta Touch thread...  as this question is more specific to the Okta Touch, than the differences between the various Telecom mobiles to do with the reason why I originally started this thread.






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  Reply # 97596 29-Nov-2007 22:08
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It is done!

Just got back from the store, purchased an Okta Touch.

So far I've worked out how to snap pictures, view them, compose and send messages, add contacts (already added a couple, two different girls who I happened to meet at the mall. The combined attraction of me and the phone is too much! lol), play media files, etc...

How long did it take before somebody asked if that is an iphone? Oh was only about ten minutes after I'd left the store a girl asked me if it is one of them....   hmmm.....  somehow I expect I'll be experiencing a lot more of this confusion! lol   All good.




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  Reply # 97599 29-Nov-2007 22:29
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dman: It is done!

Just got back from the store, purchased an Okta Touch.

So far I've worked out how to snap pictures, view them, compose and send messages, add contacts (already added a couple, two different girls who I happened to meet at the mall. The combined attraction of me and the phone is too much! lol), play media files, etc...

How long did it take before somebody asked if that is an iphone? Oh was only about ten minutes after I'd left the store a girl asked me if it is one of them.... hmmm..... somehow I expect I'll be experiencing a lot more of this confusion! lol All good.

Great stuff! I hope you enjoy it as much as everybody seems to be enjoying theirs!









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  Reply # 97622 30-Nov-2007 09:59
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tonyhughes: Great stuff! I hope you enjoy it as much as everybody seems to be enjoying theirs!
14 hours have now gone by since I first touched my new touch...    loving it so far! (and not many of those 14 hours spent sleeping! Stayed up far too late playing around with my new toy....) Though I seem to have come across a minor bug with the contacts, in that it sometimes gets half covered up by the lower half of the today screen. Not a biggie, I just have to close and reopen again contacts, then it goes away.




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