Telstra delays CDMA closure by 3 months - Telecom gets a bit of breathing space

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#18742 22-Jan-2008 11:45

Yup, old Sol has been told you cant close until atleast the 28th of April. Good news for Aussies and good news for CDMA roamers here and better news for Telecom. Now there is even less of a gap between the Aussie network closure & GSM850 being finished here in NZ. I reckon, the issues may not be fixed in the 3 months like Telstra think, they may have to eat humble pie...

http://www.scopical.com.au/articles/Tech_Media/2161/Telstra-forced-to-delay-CDMA-network-closure

http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,23074826-921,00.html

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#106092 22-Jan-2008 11:51

It's nothing but politics. As discussed in the other two threads in the weekend there is nothing at all wrong with the Next G network. It offers superior coverage to the CDMA network and there is such a small % of the toal land mass that has CDMA coverage and no NextG coverage that it's almost not worth mentioning.

The problem lies primarily with the handsets, not the network.

I don't see why everybody is suddenly Telstra bashing and boasting about the CDMA network having to stay operational. Depending on who you believe there are only a small number of CDMA handsets still operational (some say less than 10000 with regular active use out of a total of around 100000 active handsets) so it's not as though it's a busy network..

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#106125 22-Jan-2008 15:38

yeah, i doubt there'd be many CDMA handsets left, expect perhaps out in the 'bush'. Telstra has been very much pushing this move for ages, lots of signage etc plastered all over their shops.

Will be good for roaming though.

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#106265 23-Jan-2008 13:04

Just a quick update from a news article I was just reading

Computer World AU: Telecommunications analyst Paul Budde said while scuffle is an indication of positive industry reform, the kinks in Next G will take longer than three months to iron out. "Next G won't be solved in three months because the core of the problem is that it is built on 850MHz technology which is not standard 3G in the rest of the world," Budde said.

Also Telecom has updated its http://www.telecom.co.nz/globalroaming website to reflect the new April 28 proposed shutdown date.

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#106414 23-Jan-2008 22:46

allstarnz: yeah, i doubt there'd be many CDMA handsets left, expect perhaps out in the 'bush'. Telstra has been very much pushing this move for ages, lots of signage etc plastered all over their shops.

Will be good for roaming though.

For who?? If your on Vodafone NZ then you will roam on their Oz network..

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#106424 23-Jan-2008 23:12

nzbnw: Just a quick update from a news article I was just reading

Computer World AU: Telecommunications analyst Paul Budde said while scuffle is an indication of positive industry reform, the kinks in Next G will take longer than three months to iron out. "Next G won't be solved in three months because the core of the problem is that it is built on 850MHz technology which is not standard 3G in the rest of the world," Budde said.

Also Telecom has updated its http://www.telecom.co.nz/globalroaming website to reflect the new April 28 proposed shutdown date.

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For all the smart things Budde says he also has plenty of not so smart things as well. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the network! Technically it's one of the best WCDMA networks in the world. There are far more issues with the 2100MHz networks everywhere in the world than Telstra's 850MHz network!

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#106440 24-Jan-2008 00:23

He goes on to talk about mobile phones, and how they are harder to source than standard 2100 MHz phones.

This of course is vital to Telstra enabling their customers to obtain coverage, as currently there are only 7 blue tick handsets on the market, and the early Next G handsets may not be up to scratch. Of course Telstra is promising to investigate any coverage issue, and where the solution involves the handset, replace them.

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#106441 24-Jan-2008 00:24

old3eyes:
allstarnz: yeah, i doubt there'd be many CDMA handsets left, expect perhaps out in the 'bush'. Telstra has been very much pushing this move for ages, lots of signage etc plastered all over their shops.

Will be good for roaming though.

For who?? If your on Vodafone NZ then you will roam on their Oz network..

Telecom NZ roaming...

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#107478 29-Jan-2008 22:33

sbiddle:
It's nothing but politics. As discussed in the other two threads in the weekend there is nothing at all wrong with the Next G network. It offers superior coverage to the CDMA network and there is such a small % of the toal land mass that has CDMA coverage and no NextG coverage that it's almost not worth mentioning.

The problem lies primarily with the handsets, not the network.

I don't see why everybody is suddenly Telstra bashing and boasting about the CDMA network having to stay operational. Depending on who you believe there are only a small number of CDMA handsets still operational (some say less than 10000 with regular active use out of a total of around 100000 active handsets) so it's not as though it's a busy network..

Add another 0 to that figure and maybe another digit or two at the start, Telsra stated around 100000 in early Jan and other forums in Aussie are stating more than that.. Sure its politcal but from experience of aussie friends and my clients who have been there and have has conterparts with next G phones, CDMA still is better in many rural areas at distance from cell sites, especially in hills etc. I have seen info on some web sites in the past stating that WCDMA was great on flat land but in hills etc was not as good compared to CDMA on the same freq. Maybe this is the problem, Aussie is not completely flat!

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