Hi @BigPipeNZ
Is there an ETA for Bigpipe UFB in Kapiti? My guess is between July 2016/November 2016.
Thanks
Hi @BigPipeNZ
Is there an ETA for Bigpipe UFB in Kapiti? My guess is between July 2016/November 2016.
Thanks
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It wouldn't surprise me if Bigpipe (along with a lot of other ISPs) never entered the Kapiti market - the economics simply don't stack up for a handover with Vodafone having such a huge market share there with the cable network. This is discussed in depth in quite a few other threads discussing this very issue.
If Chorus launch tail extensions for UFB this may change.
Hmm. Bigpipe probably aren't offering fibre in Kapiti because it isn't economically/financially viable - the majority of Waikanae/Raumati won't get fibre for a few years yet...
Yet while Bigpipe don't offer fibre, 2Degrees/Spark/Orcon/Myrepublic do.
ethanbmnz:
Hmm. Bigpipe probably aren't offering fibre in Kapiti because it isn't economically/financially viable - the majority of Waikanae/Raumati won't get fibre for a few years yet...
Yet while Bigpipe don't offer fibre, 2Degrees/Spark/Orcon/Myrepublic do.
It's not economically feasible because Vodafone have (last I heard) around 65% of all premises up there on cable. xDSL market share up there is incredibly small for all ISPs as a result so there is not even a logical upgrade path for existing xDSL customers for ISP's. It wouldn't actually surprise me in the slightest if some existing providers don't actually break even on the cost of providing a POP there due to their small market share.
Anyway all of this is discussed in the various threads on here, including one from only a couple of days ago.
Alot of UFB areas are not economically feasible.
Ashburton, Waiheke Island, Fielding are some others. Unsure why CFH allowed such small areas to be UFB pick up areas.
Sounddude:
Alot of UFB areas are not economically feasible.
Ashburton, Waiheke Island, Fielding are some others. Unsure why CFH allowed such small areas to be UFB pick up areas.
Many of these have handover in a bigger area, eg Waiheke in Auckland, and Fielding in Palmerston North, so it doesn't take more work to serve there.
DarkShadow:
Many of these have handover in a bigger area, eg Waiheke in Auckland, and Fielding in Palmerston North, so it doesn't take more work to serve there.
You still have to have another handover, at a higher cost and not available for all areas. They are not handed over on the major city handover.
sbiddle:
It wouldn't surprise me if Bigpipe (along with a lot of other ISPs) never entered the Kapiti market - the economics simply don't stack up for a handover with Vodafone having such a huge market share there with the cable network. This is discussed in depth in quite a few other threads discussing this very issue.
If Chorus launch tail extensions for UFB this may change.
Just to cover off an official answer from us. It is this.
No plans to get a special handover for Kapiti - it's simply too expensive for us to justify it. So it would be at least 12 months away, probably more.
If TES (tail extension service) for UFB ever happens, we likely will do it then, as we won't need to invest in a handover, but not sure when that might be (maybe this year, maybe not)
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Now that there's an official answer I don't feel like I'm sidetracking the thread too much by asking this :)
Any chance of Whakatane? Obviously our population is less than that of Kapiti, but it appears at a glance that the economics may be better here (simply based on the fact that we already have more ISP choices than Kapiti does).
While you're answering these questions, and you're turning on Hamilton which is a UFF area -- what about Whanganui?
It seems that the floodgates are open now! :)
Sounddude:
DarkShadow:
Many of these have handover in a bigger area, eg Waiheke in Auckland, and Fielding in Palmerston North, so it doesn't take more work to serve there.
You still have to have another handover, at a higher cost and not available for all areas. They are not handed over on the major city handover.
For Waiheke, the options for handover are GLF/MDR, same as everywhere in Auckland? Same with Fielding and PN handover?
Behodar:
Now that there's an official answer I don't feel like I'm sidetracking the thread too much by asking this :)
Any chance of Whakatane? Obviously our population is less than that of Kapiti, but it appears at a glance that the economics may be better here (simply based on the fact that we already have more ISP choices than Kapiti does).
No immediate plans for any further roll out beyond what we already have
We now have handovers in:
Auckland
Wellington
Dunedin
Christchurch
Palmerston North
Hamilton.
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Surely the Kapiti market is ripe to have Vodafone's cable domination taken off them based on the poor performance over the last 12 months.
I bet I am not the only one who has no other option than Vodafone cable and is waiting eagerly for fibre to go live, I certainly won't be keeping Vodafone as my ISP!
BigPipeNZ: No immediate plans for any further roll out beyond what we already have
Sad panda :(
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