Using FritzBox with Spark

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#208634 20-Feb-2017 20:38

Hi all

Just wondering whether any GZers have any experience with configuring a 2degrees-supplied FritzBox on Spark (fibre)?

We're currently with 2deg, thinking of switching to Spark but I would want to keep using my FritzBox. I checked with Spark whether it would work and the best they could do was "it should do" which doesn't inspire much confidence. Anyone know how this could be done?

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#1723290 20-Feb-2017 20:41

What speed fibre are you currently on and switching to?

What model Fritzbox?

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#1723293 20-Feb-2017 20:50

Model is 7390. Currently on 100/50 and looking at 100/20 for now as that would be plenty.

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#1723304 20-Feb-2017 21:11

Fritzbox will work fine on spark, infact because of how snap setup the fritzboxes the transfer may be transparent (spark use port auth rather than PPP auth)

I have full confidence in the 7390 myself, in an official manor i would have to tell you it should work. in my informal manor that i am here on gz however, go for gold.

for over 200mbit, i would recommend the 659 over the fritzbox as the 7390 is known to struggle a little with gbit.

the hg659b that gets sent for fibre is actually a very impressive RGW and certainly contends for raw performance against the 7390 very strongly.

Obligatory third party settings for fibre:

Operating Mode : MDI/MDIX
PPP Protocol : PPPoE
PPP Username: user@spark.co.nz
PPP Password: password
PPP Auth Type : PAP
PPP Mode : Always on (Dial on Demand disabled)
Encapsulation : 802.1Q
PCP Marking : 0
VID (or VLAN) : 10
MTU : 1,500 or AUTO
Note: You may not be prompted for all values. A specific PPP Username and Password are not required, but you will not be able to connect if either field is blank.

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#1723329 20-Feb-2017 21:48

Thanks so much, that's super helpful.

Couple of other questions if you don't mind:

For voice does Spark use VoIP settings that I could just program into the fritz, or do they use another port on the ONT?

Also, just with regards to the Spark router, does is support VPN? I.e. I am able to VPN into my fritz from my iPhone and use my home internet connection from wherever I am. I tend to do this a lot on public wifi so that it's more secure.

Cheers

Steve

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#1723331 20-Feb-2017 21:52

steve98: Thanks so much, that's super helpful.

Couple of other questions if you don't mind:

For voice does Spark use VoIP settings that I could just program into the fritz, or do they use another port on the ONT?

Also, just with regards to the Spark router, does is support VPN? I.e. I am able to VPN into my fritz from my iPhone and use my home internet connection from wherever I am. I tend to do this a lot on public wifi so that it's more secure.

Cheers

Steve

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VPN, i don't think this is the case actually - point one for AVM?!

Sparks voice service is provisioned from the FON port on the ONT.

As far as i'm aware, this is not externally accessible. So even if configurations were provided for a RGW, the spark network will not allow it.

If Integrated wiring is required, that can always be organized to be done for you. IMO, sparks integrated wiring is one of the most smooth process's out there.

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#1723418 21-Feb-2017 06:12

hio77:
steve98: Thanks so much, that's super helpful.

Couple of other questions if you don't mind:

For voice does Spark use VoIP settings that I could just program into the fritz, or do they use another port on the ONT?

Also, just with regards to the Spark router, does is support VPN? I.e. I am able to VPN into my fritz from my iPhone and use my home internet connection from wherever I am. I tend to do this a lot on public wifi so that it's more secure.

Cheers

Steve

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VPN, i don't think this is the case actually - point one for AVM?!

Sparks voice service is provisioned from the FON port on the ONT.

As far as i'm aware, this is not externally accessible. So even if configurations were provided for a RGW, the spark network will not allow it.

If Integrated wiring is required, that can always be organized to be done for you. IMO, sparks integrated wiring is one of the most smooth process's out there.

Presumably then I'd just need to move the patch cable from the FON outlet on the fritz to the one on the ONT, is that right?

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#1724140 21-Feb-2017 21:27

steve98:

Presumably then I'd just need to move the patch cable from the FON outlet on the fritz to the one on the ONT, is that right?

Exactly the case!

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#1726635 26-Feb-2017 19:07

Can you get Fritzfons working with Spark?

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#1726655 26-Feb-2017 20:10

drewchad:

Can you get Fritzfons working with Spark?

Using the FXS port in the fritzbox, yes. would act as a normal phone line to the ONT.

Ofcourse this is a complex setup, if you call spark a simple process of plugin the phone to ONT will be all that is supported up to.

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#1726755 27-Feb-2017 00:07

Unless I'm misunderstanding, Fritzfons don't have anything to plug into a phone port, they only seem to need to be connected to a power supply.

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#1727376 27-Feb-2017 21:28

drewchad:

Unless I'm misunderstanding, Fritzfons don't have anything to plug into a phone port, they only seem to need to be connected to a power supply.

fritzfon is a dect phone, by design it is intended to be used with fritzboxes which are dect base stations.

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#1727424 28-Feb-2017 07:56

The phone line port on the fritz is on the same rj45 they use for the vdsl line. I cant recall the pinout but when I had a play with it I had to crimp up a cable on other pins to have it work.

If you cable that to the ONT and just set the phone stuff in the fritz up for a normal phoneline, it should work. I had mine connected to a cheap-o ATA on a voip service that I couldnt get working on the fritz reliably, and had ok phone calls.

It is just as dumb as a normal line tho, so when you press the green button the base will open the line, and then dial digits out, so quite a bit slower to ring people.

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#1729676 3-Mar-2017 23:14

Hi Steve98, Yes we have just done this after some pain.

We have a Fritz 7390 now connected to Spark Fibre and Landline with the DECT and Fon phones working. Enable fibre to Huawei ONT.

The broadband was easy, plug RJ45 from ONT LAN2 to the LAN1 on Fritz.

Now the fun part the Spark phone is on TEL1 as an analog signal output (they don't provide VOIP), you can test with old analog phone direct into ONT.

To connect this you need to make a cable with the middle pins of a RJ45(pins 4and5) or RJ11

(pins3and4) connect through to the 'Fritz DSL/TEL RJ45' on analog pins 3 and 6.

see Fritz pinouts here: sorry no link as new but you can search - Fritz DSL/Tel pinoiuts

Hope this helps you and others.

All the best.

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#1729679 3-Mar-2017 23:35

44below:

Hi Steve98, Yes we have just done this after some pain.

We have a Fritz 7390 now connected to Spark Fibre and Landline with the DECT and Fon phones working. Enable fibre to Huawei ONT.

The broadband was easy, plug RJ45 from ONT LAN2 to the LAN1 on Fritz.

Now the fun part the Spark phone is on TEL1 as an analog signal output (they don't provide VOIP), you can test with old analog phone direct into ONT.

To connect this you need to make a cable with the middle pins of a RJ45(pins 4and5) or RJ11

(pins3and4) connect through to the 'Fritz DSL/TEL RJ45' on analog pins 3 and 6.

see Fritz pinouts here: sorry no link as new but you can search - Fritz DSL/Tel pinoiuts

Hope this helps you and others.

All the best.

i'd love to know your experience with CID, i notice on copper connections atleast, the fritzbox breaks CID after the first call.

to fix this, had to brdige the gap. trunking from a FXO ATA into freepbx, SIP from pbx to fritzbox...

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#1729698 4-Mar-2017 07:45

I had no issues with it on a managed sipira ATA from a US based VoIP provider

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