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# 20917 9-Apr-2008 21:05
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I currently have a Sanyo M1 but i am getting a bit bored of it and it seems to be a little bit faulty for me. So i am looking for a new phone however im not really sure if there is anything better out there?

i was looking at either of these two phones.. Nokia 6275 or the okta boss.

Which 1 is better? On the telecom website it doesnt say that either has video and that there cameras are no better than my M1.

I am a student at college so i wouldnt be using my phone for any business like activities just the basics what us teens do.

Thanks in advance :)

PS: If you know of any new 027s coming out that are/will be better than the Sanyo M1 then could you please give me a/link to the website.

Thanks in advance :)

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  # 122470 10-Apr-2008 08:52
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I have an okta boss and its amazing, the full query keyboard makes txting/emails very very quick and easy. It will play and record videos and with a small software addition you can put entire movies (divx) from your computer on it. The okta boss is a windows mobile smartphone and can be pimped out with the range of 3rd party software for it, but can require a bit fiddling. I would say these are not as bug free or stable as your standard cellphone, but the avaliable features out ways that for me.

I use it for chatting on emails and checking my RSS feeds (requires a data plan).

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  # 122477 10-Apr-2008 09:26
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Just wait and get a 3G phone when Telecom's network can support it - the Okta is well overpriced compared to most high-end Nokia's whose features outstrip it significantly.




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  # 122583 10-Apr-2008 16:35
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The whole cdma lineup with the exception of the windows mobile phones is very underwhelming.

I second the idea of waiting till they have a network that will support a whole load of decent phones available.




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# 123127 12-Apr-2008 22:11
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I have to agree.  The selection is not only lousy, but also extremely expensive (sic - a rip off) e.g. th e "latest" Balckberry 8830 that is coming to Telecom is advertised at the "LOW LOW price of $999!!

Exactly the same phone is available in the USA at $250 USD. (http://content.alltel.com/o/phones/8830/index.html)
 
Now I know there is an exchange rate, and we aren't the flashest, BUT the NZ dollar is a little firmer than 25 US cents!  Money mouth

At the current rate
Live rates at 2008.04.12 10:07:20 UTC

250.00 USD

=

314.975 NZD

United States Dollars  New Zealand Dollars
1 USD = 1.25990 NZD 1 NZD = 0.793714 USD


This is far from the $999 Telecom are saying this phone/handset/smart phone is going to cost. (I wont say worth - cos its probably only "worth" about $25 USD in the first place)

Just my little rantings

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# 123130 12-Apr-2008 22:42
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I believe you may need to do a bit more research into pricing as there are several flaws with your post:

  • You have failed to bring up that the American telco in question has a minimum term for that handset.
  • You have failed to discuss the required plans which range from $69.99 to $189.99 USD per month. This *can be* more expensive on a monthly basis.
  • You have failed to look into the minimum term based options that Telecom offer. Depending on the plan and minimum term, you could get the blackberry as low as $111.38 NZD!
So there are options out there. Yes handsets can be a bit more expensive but in this post, you are comparing a handset price with a minimum term to an open term handset - apples and oranges.




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# 123132 12-Apr-2008 22:44
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$249.99 is with a 2 year term, and $150 mail-in rebate, while the $999 NZD Telecom charge is open term (no fixed term) pricing.

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  # 123134 12-Apr-2008 22:55
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NZtechfreak: Just wait and get a 3G phone when Telecom's network can support it - the Okta is well overpriced compared to most high-end Nokia's whose features outstrip it significantly.

Telecom's network *is* 3G. In fact, the CDMA network was 3G at launch.


Mischief: I have to agree.  The selection is not only lousy, but also extremely expensive (sic - a rip off) e.g. th e "latest" Balckberry 8830 that is coming to Telecom is advertised at the "LOW LOW price of $999!!

Exactly the same phone is available in the USA at $250 USD. (http://content.alltel.com/o/phones/8830/index.html)

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Don't forget that taxes (ie; Federal and/or state taxes, if any) are additional in the USA. 

To be fair, Telecom doesn't have the buying power of the large American Telco's, either.




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  # 123163 13-Apr-2008 10:57
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Now hold on a sec, sure his comparison is flawed, but stop tearing him a new one long enough to acknowledge that his basic point (handsets are overpriced here) is entirely true.




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  # 123166 13-Apr-2008 11:07
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So he made a flawed assumption and got corrected, we shouldn't point that out because it fits your point of view?

This isn't the place for that discussion. This is about Telecom phones and which suits him better.




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  # 123171 13-Apr-2008 11:28
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Which phone you'll think is best really comes down to you, as 'best' is such a subjective term.

The Sanyo M1 is the 'best' multimedia handset currently offered. If you were to upgrade to another model, the closest in terms of features - at least in my mind - would be the Okta Touch, but pictures and videos can only be sent via email. In terms of better features, the Touch does have Windows Mobile, which as mentioned previously, can be 'pimped out' as well as EVDO capability.

It really does depend if you want to go onto a contract or not and what features are best for you.




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  # 123185 13-Apr-2008 14:05
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munchkin:
Telecom's network *is* 3G. In fact, the CDMA network was 3G at launch.


The Telecom CDMA network was only a 2G network at launch supporting a huge 14.4Kbps. This was rather quickly upgraded to 1xRTT which defined as 2.75G or 3G depending on what country you are in.

Best Telecom phones IMO , SanyoM1, Okta Touch, Nokia 6275 but all are rather expensive. Personally I'd stick with the M1, I had the use of one for a month and really liked it, Good camera w very fast autofocus (when you turn the horrid "sharpness" off) decent video recording, decent music player, decent keypad.

Don't dissappoint yourself by "upgrading" as there is nothing that truly competes. The okta touch is great but it's more a very good PDA than a very good phone.

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freitasm: Well, either people in this thread talk about what Telecom phone is better or I will lock this down.


I concur.

The best phone, having had to play with them all for a little while now, is the Blackberry 8830 IMHO. The battery life - for a CDMA gadget - is pretty good, and it has good vox quality and bluetooth support.

I wish it had a camera but I can cope.

Having said that I also use a Sanyo 8500, and that is OK but the speech quality is a little poor.

I have broken two Nokia 6275i's to date.




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Telecom's network *is* 3G. In fact, the CDMA network was 3G at launch.


The Telecom CDMA network was only a 2G network at launch supporting a huge 14.4Kbps. This was rather quickly upgraded to 1xRTT which defined as 2.75G or 3G depending on what country you are in.

Best Telecom phones IMO , SanyoM1, Okta Touch, Nokia 6275 but all are rather expensive. Personally I'd stick with the M1, I had the use of one for a month and really liked it, Good camera w very fast autofocus (when you turn the horrid "sharpness" off) decent video recording, decent music player, decent keypad.

Don't dissappoint yourself by "upgrading" as there is nothing that truly competes. The okta touch is great but it's more a very good PDA than a very good phone.

I didn't know that - I'd always thought it was a 1xRTT network, thanks Smile




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# 123227 13-Apr-2008 17:13
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You really didn't know Telecom operates a CDMA EVDO network in this country? I can't believe it. Telecom's marketing is doing poorly - or people simply shut their ears down when they hear "Telecom"...

Telecom CDMA EVDO Rev 0 has been up for a few years now and CDMA EVDO Rev A was completely deployed by end of 2007. For ages Telecom 3G delivered much faster speeds than Vodafone could - and I still think it is the most reliable and best performance in the country.




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