Thinking of switching to Spark

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Benoire

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#247773 22-Feb-2019 16:18

I'm currently with 2degrees and formally Snap before them but I'm thinking of moving over to Spark for a number of reasons, none of which are to do with 2Degrees performance at all; generally cost saving as much as possible as monthly expenditure is quite high for my entertainment stuff. I do however have a number of questions:

I host a personal mail server for my family which 2degrees have attached the subdomain mail.IP as the PTR for the reverse DNS so that the mail routes correctly and doesn't cause trouble. Can Spark do this as well? If not, I presume a Dynamic DNS/IP provider could (for a price of course) assuming that Spark allow delegation.
We have a voip line provided by 2degrees, does spark do voip or is it copper only? Our fritz!box is setup for VOIP and I'd like to keep it simple. Appreciate there are others I can use such as 2talk but looking to limit the amount of external providers.
How is the performance? My line is capable of ~37/7 on VDSL and I get that with 2degrees with little latency across NZ and to aus for gaming. Is Spark ok in this regard?
How does the 'free' lightbox work? Is it for the life of the plan or are their end dates that Spark could introduce?
How does the fanpass sub work? I understand that spark issue a voucher code for use, but I presume its a year long sub split in to months (billed by Spark) rather than a month by month offer? Apart from the early exit fee of $99 if prior to 6 months, there is no other limits?
Do Spark offer more than 1 static IP for residential customers?
Does anybody know when Spark's IPv6 stack is coming? I'm used to 2degrees dual stack and use it currently. Its not the end of the world if its not available soon but it would make life easier.
Anything else that I should be aware of?

I've had awesome performance from 2degrees but the offers from Spark are peaking my interest as I look to reduce my entertain budget.

Thanks for help!

Chris

dt

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#2185497 22-Feb-2019 16:39

are you a gamer? I dont know if this is the norm with spark but my cousin just swapped his Fibre from Orcon to Spark and his only gripe with it has been that his latency to Australia was slightly higher (he loves his counter strike..) other than that he said the overall performance is great

Benoire

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#2185499 22-Feb-2019 16:43

I do game yes, not as much as I used to but I'm getting ~30ms to sydney and ~10/15 around NZ centres... If the latency is not vastly different I'd be more interested in the other aspects as that is one of the primary drivers for the potential change.

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#2185507 22-Feb-2019 17:01

he did mention it wasn't much.. but he was with orcon for 5~ years so noticed the increase right away

hasn't bothered him enough to want to switch back in any case :)

I was a Spark ADSL customer for many, many years back when they bought Xtra and was always happy with them then I only switched to orcon about 10~ years ago because when I used to game a lot having interleaving turned off was the rage and Orcon offered that service where as at the time Telecom didn't

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#2185514 22-Feb-2019 17:11

IIRC Spark do VoIP from the ONT (not from the router), using the phone port on the ONT so it looks like a landline to the customer.
I think that you'd have to buy your VoIP service from someone else if you want to do a pure VoIP solution.

IPv6? Yeah, nah.
They've just said that the flash new Spark Sport service is effectively IPv4 only - the Spark presenter at NZNOG said that if an RSP wanted to do v6 "we could talk about that off-line", which I took to mean "you're kidding, right?"
I've been out of the customer side for nearly a year now, but it would be interesting to hear if Spark have any developed plans for v6 yet

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#2185520 22-Feb-2019 17:35

4. At this stage Lightbox is free until Spark say otherwise.
5. $30 is added to your Spark bill each month, that’s pretty much the guts of it. If you cancel it after six months then there’s no penalty. There’s no other limits, other than the terms of use that apply to anyone who has Fanpass.
8. Personally I’ve always had rock solid performance, and they’ve always been quick to respond to any queries I’ve had through Facebook.

Jase2985

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#2185717 23-Feb-2019 07:16

im just going to be blunt and say it, spark is not the ISP you should be looking at for all those points you mentioned above

while spark offer a fantastic service they are not really there for the "geek" who wants something that's not just out of the box

rugrat

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#2185773 23-Feb-2019 11:49

Probably best to stick with 2degrees, best thing Spark has is Fan Pass at $30, vs 6 months normal cost $60 a month.

I’d be very surprised if they discount their other Sports for their customers.

They only do copper voice over VDSL, and Light Box adds $10 to plan, plus Spark has been upping the cost to copper customers recently,

They tried to up the cost of fibre, and others didn’t so there’s been a $6. back down there.

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#2185785 23-Feb-2019 11:58

Jase2985:

im just going to be blunt and say it, spark is not the ISP you should be looking at for all those points you mentioned above

while spark offer a fantastic service they are not really there for the "geek" who wants something that's not just out of the box

Pretty much this.

ripdog

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#2185803 23-Feb-2019 12:46

I'm not sure I understand the idea behind this post. 2degrees is either the same price as Spark or cheaper. Or do you mean you're paying for lightbox right now and want it included?

Benoire

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#2185807 23-Feb-2019 13:13

Its the media addons I'm looking at trying to get cheaper; fanpass is $25.99 cheaper and lightbox is free... total saving of ~$40 per month plus I can then look at my Sky sub too.

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#2185831 23-Feb-2019 14:36

Spark also have a 12 month Netflix offer which expires 14th April 2019

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

jcddcjjcd

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#2185912 23-Feb-2019 16:15

Stick with 2degrees if you can.

I moved to 2degrees from spark a month ago and am very impressed. With their great Fritzbox router you get 2 seperate phone lines in and out without any extra cost because there are 2 phone ports on the router and they are independent of each other. The performance on my 1gig plan is the same as it was on Spark which is what you would expect.

There are more advantages with the phone such as getting missed call messages from you phone etc.

Regards, John.

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#2185981 23-Feb-2019 17:52

See below

Benoire:

I host a personal mail server for my family which 2degrees have attached the subdomain mail.IP as the PTR for the reverse DNS so that the mail routes correctly and doesn't cause trouble. Can Spark do this as well? If not, I presume a Dynamic DNS/IP provider could (for a price of course) assuming that Spark allow delegation.

BT: No, Spark doesn't offer PTR updates to point to a custom DNS entry for retail broadband.

We have a voip line provided by 2degrees, does spark do voip or is it copper only? Our fritz!box is setup for VOIP and I'd like to keep it simple. Appreciate there are others I can use such as 2talk but looking to limit the amount of external providers.

BT: No, Spark is VoIP in the ONT and doesn't offer VoIP in the RGW either a fritzbox or the Spark supplied HG659

How is the performance? My line is capable of ~37/7 on VDSL and I get that with 2degrees with little latency across NZ and to aus for gaming. Is Spark ok in this regard?

BT: You'll get line speed, and perhaps a slight increase in performance especially with international due to tweaking that has been done to improve performance.

How does the 'free' lightbox work? Is it for the life of the plan or are their end dates that Spark could introduce?

BT: You'll need to check with Spark on the T&Cs. When I had it, it was free based on the fact you have an active broadband connection.

How does the fanpass sub work? I understand that spark issue a voucher code for use, but I presume its a year long sub split in to months (billed by Spark) rather than a month by month offer? Apart from the early exit fee of $99 if prior to 6 months, there is no other limits?

BT: With netflix it was a one off credit to cover 6 months, I suspect fanpass would be the same.

Do Spark offer more than 1 static IP for residential customers?

BT: No, you can't get more than one Static IP on a fixed BB connection

Does anybody know when Spark's IPv6 stack is coming? I'm used to 2degrees dual stack and use it currently. Its not the end of the world if its not available soon but it would make life easier.

BT: It was "on the horizon" when I worked there 12 months ago, but I suspect the engineers are focused on RWC right now before IPv6 launch.

Anything else that I should be aware of?

BT: The VoIP on the ONT or if you are not UFB just standard POTS service may be a step backwards. Spark doesn't offer Voicemail to emails which is one feature I like with 2D.

I've had awesome performance from 2degrees but the offers from Spark are peaking my interest as I look to reduce my entertain budget.

Thanks for help!

Chris