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#248800 10-Apr-2019 14:58
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Hello,

 

Does anyone have any experience with using a Google WiFi with a Spark fibre connection?

 

First question: Does the Google Wifi work with a Spark fibre connection?

 

Second question: If so, can it be connected straight to the ONT?

 

Third question: If so, how do I set that up?

 

Thanks.


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  #2214434 10-Apr-2019 15:29
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I think Spark fibre requires VLAN 10 tagging on the WAN interface of the connecting router, and Google Wifi doesn't support VLAN tagging from memory (anyone please correct me if I am wrong) so cannot be used with Spark fibre.




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  #2214435 10-Apr-2019 15:31
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My understanding from when I recently researched these mesh options was that Google WiFi can't do the VLAN requirement for most ISPs - hence my selection of the TPLink Deco system, which can - and which I've successfully plugged straight into the ONT for Slingshot UFB.

 

But, I don't think Spark needs the VLAN set - in which case, you should be OK with the Google kit


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  #2214439 10-Apr-2019 15:34
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I posted at the same time as the poster above, who may be correct that Spark does need the VLAN set.

 

The TPLink kit works well if that's any help




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  #2214443 10-Apr-2019 15:40
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What? Doesn't Spark SELL the Google Wifi? Of course that it will work with spark.

 

https://www.spark.co.nz/shop/internet/modems/google-wifi/ 


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  #2214448 10-Apr-2019 15:44
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ripdog:

 

What? Doesn't Spark SELL the Google Wifi? Of course that it will work with spark.

 

 

 

https://www.spark.co.nz/shop/internet/modems/google-wifi/

 

 

 

 

Then again the "Buy" button on that website is broken :/






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  #2214460 10-Apr-2019 16:03
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Hmm, I'm not having any luck connecting via the ONT or another router.

 

I thought it would at least work via another router, I'm sure I've seen others in the forums say they have that working.

 

 

 

I'll keep trying.


 
 
 

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  #2214533 10-Apr-2019 17:21
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After hard resetting the Google WiFi and soft resetting everything else for the thousandth time it's working via the existing router.

 

I suspect you're right about Spark needing VLAN 10 tagging, so via the ONT is out for now I guess.

 

Thanks guys.


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  #2214535 10-Apr-2019 17:26
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ripdog:

What? Doesn't Spark SELL the Google Wifi? Of course that it will work with spark.


https://www.spark.co.nz/shop/internet/modems/google-wifi/ 


There's a different between it working as as AP and as a router - slingshot had a promotion on the latter with a mesh system but with these systems you don't get all the functionality if they're sitting behind another router.

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  #2214544 10-Apr-2019 17:48
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I have no idea why Spark sells the Google WiFi given you can't use it as a router, also as a whole the Google WiFi is quite underpowered.

 

If you've just bought this then consider returning it in favour for a unit that can do VLAN 10 (eg - the Ubiquiti AmpliFi).





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  #2214551 10-Apr-2019 18:20
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ripdog:

 

What? Doesn't Spark SELL the Google Wifi? Of course that it will work with spark.

 

https://www.spark.co.nz/shop/internet/modems/google-wifi/ 

 

 

only reason your able to view that page is becaues you are direct linking to it.

 

 

 

I'll have the folk update that link.

 

To use the Google Wifi on Spark, it needs to go behind your HG659b.

 

 

 

this is because it does need the vlan 10.

 

 





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  #2214552 10-Apr-2019 18:21
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michaelmurfy:

 

I have no idea why Spark sells the Google WiFi given you can't use it as a router, also as a whole the Google WiFi is quite underpowered.

 

If you've just bought this then consider returning it in favour for a unit that can do VLAN 10 (eg - the Ubiquiti AmpliFi).

 

 

It's not a supported device.

 

 

 

It's just like we sell chormecasts or tvs with devices... These are unsupported items, normally on IFP.





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  #2214940 11-Apr-2019 12:19
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hio77:

 

ripdog:

 

What? Doesn't Spark SELL the Google Wifi? Of course that it will work with spark.

 

https://www.spark.co.nz/shop/internet/modems/google-wifi/ 

 

 

only reason your able to view that page is becaues you are direct linking to it.

 

 

 

I'll have the folk update that link.

 

To use the Google Wifi on Spark, it needs to go behind your HG659b.

 

 

 

this is because it does need the vlan 10.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The wanganui spark store still has a big ad on the back wall about the google wifi. That's how I initially knew.


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  #2214943 11-Apr-2019 12:24
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ripdog:

 

The wanganui spark store still has a big ad on the back wall about the google wifi. That's how I initially knew.

 

 

I can only comment on the online experience, I'm very distant from stores.

 

 

 

Stores sell alot of products that aren't supported.





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  #2214988 11-Apr-2019 12:49
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Netgear's Orbi Wi-Fi devices also support VLAN tagging


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  #2215016 11-Apr-2019 13:52
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allan:

 

Netgear's Orbi Wi-Fi devices also support VLAN tagging

 

 

Does their PPPoE client preform as bad as the other netgear products though?..





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