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#269926 15-Apr-2020 10:19
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Hi Everyone,

 

 

 

I realise this has been covered multiple times, but I just wanted to get an opinion on what to ask before I call Spark.  I'm getting 30Mbs down, but less than 1Mb up on a rural VDSL connection.  I'm about 1.5km from the cabinet (as per the road).  This has become a huge issue with two kids/wife/myself attempting to carry out video conferencing while in lock down.  For all four of us it's essential work and school requirements.  Using a Vigor 130 modem connecting to Ubiquiti wireless equipment. 

 

 

 

Any thoughts appreciated.

 

 

 

Ive attached line stats below:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks!


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  #2461688 15-Apr-2020 10:31
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Hi, so I the speeds you are getting could be a little better for 1.5km, my guess is its more likely 2km of cable. 

 

I take it you internal wiring has be checked, the modem should be connected to the inbound line that goes direct to the modem, no other T's, taps or phones connected, if there is a phone then all other wiring should be behind a master filter ideally sited at the ETP or direct off that. Something makes me think you have already done this.

 

Next option, can you move the modem closer to the cabinet and purhaps use a p2p link to drop it to the house. Without understanding your rural circumstance, maybe a neighbouring property where you can have the line moved to and a p2p installed?

 

Cyril




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  #2461692 15-Apr-2020 10:38
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Thanks for the reply.  I forgot to add in my initial post..... House is a new build, about 3 months old. I have a single dedicated line coming into the garage where the modem is connected - no other phone connections in the house, my house is only about 50m off the road.  I've looked at some form of p2p connection but thought I would persue the VDSL connection to start with as my download is acceptable.  Do the figures sound reasonable or is something wrong?  Thanks


 
 
 
 


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  #2461701 15-Apr-2020 10:49
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DM me your landline number/account and address, I'll have a poke at the maps.

 

 

 

for a 29db connection though, it looks like you have drawn quite a nice clean pair, US0 (ADSL Upload) is only about 1mbit at VDSL Power Levels. US1 is a fair way up the bandplan which is where you will see the 'boost' in speed.

 

Physics defines a pretty clear drop off over distance.

 

 

 

Looks like it might be a vectored line, which unfortunately do tend to suffer in the upload department on longer lines due to the 17a power levels.

 

the bit that does interest me is the high UAS





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  #2461702 15-Apr-2020 10:50
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Do you happen to have a HG659 or one with a similar Broadcom chipset? From my experience they seem to be able to squeeze out slightly better speed from longer lines while still being stable enough. They work great in bridge mode...could be worth a try just as a comparison. 

 


Edit - as Hio says though the line does look pretty decent.  




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  #2461708 15-Apr-2020 10:57
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Thanks for the replies guys.  hio I've PM'd you my details, much appreciated.  Unfortunately I only have the Draytek which I don't think is a Broadcom chipset and an Asus modem which Ive also tried with similar results - also not a broadcom chipset.  The replies are much appreciated.


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  #2461710 15-Apr-2020 10:58
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New build in Titahi Bay? No fibre available?




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  #2461712 15-Apr-2020 11:01
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Oh, and yes I'm running the vectored firmware on the Draytek.


 
 
 
 




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  #2461714 15-Apr-2020 11:11
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quickymart:

 

New build in Titahi Bay? No fibre available?

 

 

 

 

Coatesville in Auckland, unfortunately no fibre for us in the grand plan.


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  #2461717 15-Apr-2020 11:23
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Provided a more detailed response in DM, but it really is just distance based.

 

 

 

Vectoring is doing a ton of work on this line actually.... I'm impressed for little old coatesville!

 

@cyril7's math is on point as always, is correct regardless of looking at DELT or physically drawing it :)

 

 

 

My best advice is to play with a broadcom modem, you might find the gains worth it. PPPoE Bridges real easy.





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  #2461770 15-Apr-2020 11:43
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  #2461867 15-Apr-2020 13:04
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Smeagol:

 

quickymart:

 

New build in Titahi Bay? No fibre available?

 

 

 

 

Coatesville in Auckland, unfortunately no fibre for us in the grand plan.

 

 

Sorry about that, dunno where I got Titahi Bay from...


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  #2461872 15-Apr-2020 13:11
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Hi, so based on Troys confirmation re the line length, next option as mentioned is to see if you can shorten the cable length with a p2p link back to somewhere closer the cabinet, are there any options on that front that you can immediately see?

 

Cyril


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  #2461920 15-Apr-2020 14:06
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Some of our customers have bought a second ADSL or VDSL connection for the next 1-2 months. Kids / learning on connection 1, home business on connection 2.



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  #2461930 15-Apr-2020 14:16
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cyril7:

 

Hi, so based on Troys confirmation re the line length, next option as mentioned is to see if you can shorten the cable length with a p2p link back to somewhere closer the cabinet, are there any options on that front that you can immediately see?

 

Cyril

 

 

 

 

Unfortuntaley I don't see anywhere that would be feasible, I have alot of trees around and up quite a slope to the cabinet.  Most of the p2p solutions require line of sight which is quite difficult.  I might just have to wait for mid frequency 5g (I can dream).  Thanks for your suggestion though.


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