Port 25 on Unplan

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#272445 25-Jun-2020 12:29

"Port 25 unblock is not available on the residential Home Unlimited Data broadband plan."

Does Unplan count as "Unlimited" the only capped broadband plans i know of are the wireless plans.

I would like to bring my mail server back home and not need to go thru the loops to get a business plan.

(Reason i bring it up is a friend just got theirs unblocked with BigPipe so maybe the "Technical limitations" i was told many years ago no longer apply?)

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#2512096 25-Jun-2020 12:35

I would think that running a mail server as been outside of the terms of "regular home use" therefore a business plan would be required

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#2512097 25-Jun-2020 12:35

http://www.spark.co.nz/port25

Fill out that form, That text is from the old form. I'll have that fixed.

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#2512098 25-Jun-2020 12:37

@hio77

So they do allow it now?

If so thanks!

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#2512099 25-Jun-2020 12:38

nztim:

I would think that running a mail server as been outside of the terms of "regular home use" therefore a business plan would be required

I have my own domain name and its not for business many people do but if it was for a business yes i would use one

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#2512101 25-Jun-2020 12:38

You will need a static IP first whick I recall is $15 per month, then request port 25 unblock but not sure if they do it on residential plans either.

You could use a mail forwarder like smtp2go on port 2525 ( mail relay ) and they have very good and easy settings to integrate into your domain, they also have a free account to allow you to send 1000 emails per month so that is very generous.

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#2512106 25-Jun-2020 12:48

Yes you can have port 25 opened on a Home connection with Spark by filling out the form and waiting a few days. I have that and a static IP for my home eMail server.

Note that I had to reapply for both when I moved from VDSL to fibre as, despite assurance it would come across, it didn't.

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#2512132 25-Jun-2020 13:17

SATTV:

You will need a static IP first whick I recall is $15 per month, then request port 25 unblock but not sure if they do it on residential plans either.

You could use a mail forwarder like smtp2go on port 2525 ( mail relay ) and they have very good and easy settings to integrate into your domain, they also have a free account to allow you to send 1000 emails per month so that is very generous.

John

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#2512133 25-Jun-2020 13:17

SATTV:

You will need a static IP first whick I recall is $15 per month, then request port 25 unblock but not sure if they do it on residential plans either.

John

The only services that also need a static IP in order to open Port 25 (+ others) is Wireless Broadband. Those on ADSL, VDSL or Fibre can open port 25 without the need for static IP. The reason for this is the Wireless Broadband uses CGNAT, and Static IP is the only way to opt out of that.

Static IP is available on all plans as far as I am aware - its just that some plans (selected business plans) have no extra charge.

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#2512138 25-Jun-2020 13:27

@cbrpilot Thanks just waiting for them to apply it,

Static ip is 15$ a month for the occasional change would be nice to pay a one off fee like Bigpipe for it though

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#2512275 25-Jun-2020 15:24

CNZ:

SATTV:

You will need a static IP first whick I recall is $15 per month, then request port 25 unblock but not sure if they do it on residential plans either.

You could use a mail forwarder like smtp2go on port 2525 ( mail relay ) and they have very good and easy settings to integrate into your domain, they also have a free account to allow you to send 1000 emails per month so that is very generous.

John

Not a fan of "Free" services being that they might snoop thru your emails and could even slip in some ads or sell your information

Theyre fine, been using their free plan with a client for years with no issues.

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#2512280 25-Jun-2020 15:36

cbrpilot:

The only services that also need a static IP in order to open Port 25 (+ others) is Wireless Broadband. Those on ADSL, VDSL or Fibre can open port 25 without the need for static IP. The reason for this is the Wireless Broadband uses CGNAT, and Static IP is the only way to opt out of that.

Static IP is available on all plans as far as I am aware - its just that some plans (selected business plans) have no extra charge.

Static IP available on Fixed Wireless? We may need to have a chat :) there is still the B618 Requirement though right?

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#2512301 25-Jun-2020 16:07

nztim:

Static IP available on Fixed Wireless? We may need to have a chat :) there is still the B618 Requirement though right?

Yes this has been there for a while now :)

Not sure on where you're angling with the B618 question? Are you asking about support for 3rd party CPE? My understanging is that it must use the Spark CPE. Or were you asking whether you could get a static IP on a WBB service uses the old B315? I think the answer to that is yes.

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#2512303 25-Jun-2020 16:10

cbrpilot:

nztim:

Static IP available on Fixed Wireless? We may need to have a chat :) there is still the B618 Requirement though right?

Yes this has been there for a while now :)

Not sure on where you're angling with the B618 question? Are you asking about support for 3rd party CPE? My understanging is that it must use the Spark CPE. Or were you asking whether you could get a static IP on a WBB service uses the old B315? I think the answer to that is yes.

Yup, the crux of that question is the b315 has a UI quirk that leads to most people thinking it doesn't support static ips - it does, it's just VERY clunky.

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#2512316 25-Jun-2020 16:35

cbrpilot:

Yes this has been there for a while now :)

Not sure on where you're angling with the B618 question? Are you asking about support for 3rd party CPE? My understanging is that it must use the Spark CPE. Or were you asking whether you could get a static IP on a WBB service uses the old B315? I think the answer to that is yes.

IPSEC VPNs don't like double NAT, but I guess a UTM Firewall could sit behind a B618 and it would only be a single layer if CG-NAT is removed

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#2512341 25-Jun-2020 17:13

nztim:

cbrpilot:

Yes this has been there for a while now :)

Not sure on where you're angling with the B618 question? Are you asking about support for 3rd party CPE? My understanging is that it must use the Spark CPE. Or were you asking whether you could get a static IP on a WBB service uses the old B315? I think the answer to that is yes.

IPSEC VPNs don't like double NAT, but I guess a UTM Firewall could sit behind a B618 and it would only be a single layer if CG-NAT is removed

IPSEC works fine behind a B618 even without static...

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