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#272986 29-Jul-2020 09:50
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Spark has today announced Palmerston North’s city centre as the first location in New Zealand to have access to 5G on both mobile and wireless broadband, with an additional four locations to follow before the end of year.

 

Spark’s 5G rollout is now proceeding with pace, following the Government’s recent allocation of 5G C-band spectrum. The national rollout of the next generation of mobile technology is predicted to add between $5.7 billion and $8.9 billion per year to the New Zealand economy over the next 10 years – including $135 million to the local Palmerston North economy1.

 

Spark CEO Jolie Hodson said this is a major milestone in what will be a long-term and significant investment in 5G infrastructure across the country, which will play a critical role in improving New Zealand’s productivity and supporting the country’s economic recovery from Covid-19.

 

“We believe in the potential of 5G technology to solve some of our country’s greatest challenges and never has this been more critical as we adapt to new ways of working, learning and connecting as a country.

 

“We’ve already seen first-hand how businesses have used technology to innovate and adapt to our ‘new normal.’ Teachers took their lessons online; global sporting events went virtual and supermarkets created the ability to manage social distancing with online queues. As a nation of innovators, imagine what could be achieved, what solutions these businesses could create to move our country forward with the power of 5G.”

 

Spark has already started working with Toyota New Zealand to untap the value of 5G in Palmerston North.

 

Toyota New Zealand’s General Manager for Business Technology, Andrew Davis, said 5G provides Toyota with the opportunity to further explore innovative customer experiences, while also helping them deliver on their net carbon reduction targets by minimising the need to transport cars around the country through solutions like virtual test drives.

 

“Customers are faced with so many options when buying a new car, so research is a really important part of their buying experience. At this stage we are testing the capability to have 360-degree live stream cameras on and around a car so that customers can see and talk to a car expert, be immersed in the details of the car and be taken for a test drive through their mobile phone, all from the comfort of their own home.”

 

“Over the next few months we will be working with Spark to see how we can use the faster speeds and low latency that 5G provides to build a fully immersive virtual reality experience. We have 52 retail outlets around the country and with our wide product range we are not able to have every model available in every store for customers to view in person. What we’re working towards is the ability for customers to be able to go to their local Toyota Store, put on a pair of VR goggles and see a full-size personalised car drive into their vision, inspect it at every angle and even virtually test drive it in a variety of different landscapes.”

 

Palmerston North City Council Chief Customer Officer, Chris Dyhrberg, said it is great to see investment in critical infrastructure in Palmerston North, which will be an important enabler of local businesses and connectivity for all residents.

 

“5G is a critical step forward not only for New Zealand, but also for our hometown of Palmerston North. Our aspiration is to be a city that drives and supports innovation and entrepreneurship and 5G is an enabler of this – providing significantly faster speeds and considerably more capacity than previous generations of mobile technology. The 5G roll out in Palmerston North is a perfect example of how we provide and support smart technology that further cements Palmerston North as a smart city now and into the future”.

 

Palmerston North residents who are Spark customers and have a 5G enabled mobile phone will have free access to 5G speeds no matter what plan they are on until at least July 2021. Those who want to experience 5G speeds at home can sign up for Spark’s Discover 5G Wireless Broadband Plan.

 

To help educate and inspire local businesses to explore new avenues for growth and development using 5G, Spark will be hosting a free business event through the Manuwatu Chamber of Commerce on 7 August.

 





 

 

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  #2530565 29-Jul-2020 09:57
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Why is Spark doing a Vodafone and pitching use cases for 5G that revolve around upload? Vodafone did this as well pitching a Police 5G drone.

 

On current 5G NSA networks upload is exactly the same as LTE so there is zero benefit in a 5G based solution. We won't have true 5G upload and lower latency until we have 5G SA networks.

 

 

 

 


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  #2530578 29-Jul-2020 10:17
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sbiddle:

 

Why is Spark doing a Vodafone and pitching use cases for 5G that revolve around upload? Vodafone did this as well pitching a Police 5G drone.

 

On current 5G NSA networks upload is exactly the same as LTE so there is zero benefit in a 5G based solution. We won't have true 5G upload and lower latency until we have 5G SA networks.

 

 

But that stodgy and boring 4g doesn't have that new and shiny 5G™️ coating.... don't let the specs get in the way of good yarn

 

Also, yay PN! Suck it other mid-sized regional cities!


 
 
 
 


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  #2530583 29-Jul-2020 10:25
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sbiddle:

 

Why is Spark doing a Vodafone and pitching use cases for 5G that revolve around upload? Vodafone did this as well pitching a Police 5G drone.

 

On current 5G NSA networks upload is exactly the same as LTE so there is zero benefit in a 5G based solution. We won't have true 5G upload and lower latency until we have 5G SA networks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't speak to the setup, given i don't actually know the details for sparks network.

 

 

 

However, Upload on NSA can still be done over the 5G carrier. it all depends on how it's configured.

 

Overal it's still pretty rare to see Upload over NSA NR though as it's often on higher frequeny and thus looks worse on a speedtest... plus TDD..





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  #2530693 29-Jul-2020 12:32
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Now watch Vodafone drop the $10 premium for 5G access for good now!


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  #2530697 29-Jul-2020 12:37
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So the covid-19 cases will increase in Palmy North now? 🤡


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  #2530826 29-Jul-2020 16:00
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So that's why Toyota HQ has a tower in their backyard!

 


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  #2530864 29-Jul-2020 16:50
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Now watch Vodafone drop the $10 premium for 5G access for good now!

 

 

From memory they did the same when 4G was launched.. 





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  #2530865 29-Jul-2020 16:50
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sbiddle:

 

Why is Spark doing a Vodafone and pitching use cases for 5G that revolve around upload? Vodafone did this as well pitching a Police 5G drone.

 

On current 5G NSA networks upload is exactly the same as LTE so there is zero benefit in a 5G based solution. We won't have true 5G upload and lower latency until we have 5G SA networks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And 2 degrees doesn't seem to be in a hurry to start building a 5G Network.


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  #2535107 5-Aug-2020 13:04
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ajw:

 

sbiddle:

 

Why is Spark doing a Vodafone and pitching use cases for 5G that revolve around upload? Vodafone did this as well pitching a Police 5G drone.

 

On current 5G NSA networks upload is exactly the same as LTE so there is zero benefit in a 5G based solution. We won't have true 5G upload and lower latency until we have 5G SA networks.

 

And 2 degrees doesn't seem to be in a hurry to start building a 5G Network.

 

It will be interesting to see how they will address it given the current situation with Huawei. I could imagine Spark moving to a Nokia SingleRAN after phasing out 3G then replaying those frequencies for 5G but for 2 Degrees Mobile the benefit of Huawei was the low cost - it'll be interesting to see whether they can find a vendor who can provide 5G equipment at a comparable price not to mention the bigger question about wether it is worth shifting suppliers given that the Huawei controversy appears to be an ongoing and protracted issue that is going to be around for quite some time.





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  #2535114 5-Aug-2020 13:14
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You don't mention open ran. Still early days for this tech but being pushed by vodafone and telefonica and other companies. Will radically reduce the cost of rolling out a cellular network. Also look at Samsung as they are rolling out  mobile solutions.

 

https://www.o-ran.org/

 

I wonder also if Trump is voted out in November if the pressure will come off the Chinese vendors.


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  #2535118 5-Aug-2020 13:19
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Not sure if I have mentioned but the SparkNZ 5G kit that is live today is Nokia not Samsung


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  #2535121 5-Aug-2020 13:22
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Interesting to see T-mobile today roll out nationwide 600Mhz 5G SA - the world's first commercial 5G SA network. https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/standalone-5g-launch

 

 


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  #2535122 5-Aug-2020 13:23
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Not sure if I have mentioned but the SparkNZ 5G kit that is live today is Nokia not Samsung

 

 

Thought they were using Samsung as a 5G vendor.

 

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-expands-to-new-zealand-in-5g-networks-deal-with-spark


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  #2535125 5-Aug-2020 13:26
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ajw:

 

Linux:

 

Not sure if I have mentioned but the SparkNZ 5G kit that is live today is Nokia not Samsung

 

 

Thought they were using Samsung as a 5G vendor.

 

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-expands-to-new-zealand-in-5g-networks-deal-with-spark

 

 

From what I've heard there are issues with Samsung's 5G kit so Spark have just continued with the Nokia rollout (same as what they were using with Dense Air) in the meantime.

 

 


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  #2535151 5-Aug-2020 13:56
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ajw:

 

Linux:

 

Not sure if I have mentioned but the SparkNZ 5G kit that is live today is Nokia not Samsung

 

 

Thought they were using Samsung as a 5G vendor.

 

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-expands-to-new-zealand-in-5g-networks-deal-with-spark

 

 

@ajw that was the plan but Samsung needs more time as I understand


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