Another NEAX 61k exchange

Forums › Spark New Zealand (including Skinny and BigPipe) › Another NEAX 61k exchange

Juicytree

141 posts

Master Geek

#31457 18-Mar-2009 14:50

I am shifting to Geraldine in the next couple of months and just found that the Telecom switch is still a Neax 61k. Can anyone enlighten me if Telecom have any intentions of upgrading their old 1970s/80s technology 61k exchanges to something that will provide all the smartphone services like most of the rest of the county enjoys.

Alternatively, a reduction in the monthly rental for their customers connected to all the exchanges that they can't be bothered to upgrade. I feel such a discount would be appropriate in recognition of the provision of a service that is less than what most subscribers enjoy. This would then encourage Telecom's bean counters to take upgrading seriously rather than ignore the company's more regional outposts.

How does one effectively protest this inequality?

1 | 2

Hawkes Bay
8476 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#201914 18-Mar-2009 15:03

Protest?
Inequality?

I agree it sucks, but they are a business - they offer a service, and you can choose to pay for it, or not.

What services do you want?

Why not bypass the POTS network, get a wireless broadband connection and VoIP. You will drown in features if thats what you need :)

mjb

996 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

#201919 18-Mar-2009 15:26

This is Geraldine we're talking about, they're all still on a party line.

contentsofsignaturemaysettleduringshipping

Juicytree

141 posts

Master Geek

#201920 18-Mar-2009 15:28

mjb got my point exactly!!
3,500 people

sbiddle

30853 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod

Trusted

Biddle Corp

Lifetime subscriber

#201924 18-Mar-2009 15:36

Telecom's NEAX replacement is their NGN. Unfortunately the whole NGN rollout isn't due to be completed for at least another few years and there are no customers actually using the NGN voice network yet.

coffeebaron

6231 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#201951 18-Mar-2009 16:24

If you can get ADSL, then choose a provider who can do naked DSL and VoIP service. Xnet Fusion from WorldxChange would be one option. Also Slingshot may be another option.

Rural IT and Broadband support.

Broadband troubleshooting and master filter installs.
Starlink installer - one month free: https://www.starlink.com/?referral=RC-32845-88860-71
Wi-Fi and networking
Cel-Fi supply and installer - boost your mobile phone coverage legally

Need help in Auckland, Waikato or BoP? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com

matt45

311 posts

Ultimate Geek

#202050 18-Mar-2009 22:50

Hi,

As stated above the replacement to the neax switches is a new voip network, this network will be inplace around 2022 (prior to this in main centres).

NEC no longer produces neax switches or spare parts, hense telecom is having and going to continue having a job to keep them alive, hense there will be no "upgrade" of these switches, however in some areas eg. hibiscus coast which runs of a k switch there are some cabinets which have been migrated to a DTLM system running off an E switch (in this particular case it is Glenfield), customers running on these systems are able to receive all of the services E switches have without a phone number change.

Also some exchanges eg. brownsbay have both E and K type switches, in this case you can be moved onto the E switch however this will require re-jumpering and ushally a number change.

If you are wanting a Centrex connection which only runs off an E switch but you are in a K area then ushally telecom is still able to supply you with centrex using a 2meg mux system feeding from a E swtich however you will need phone number changes and if you ever move back to a POTS line you cant stay on the E and will have to get another number change.

Hope this helps,
Matt

paradoxsm

3000 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#202066 19-Mar-2009 00:47

My solution would be: (suggestion only)

Have a basic featureless phoneline with Telecom and a Broadband plan.
Get a Voip connection with Vfx, 2Talk, iTalk (google them) for around a paltry $10-$15 a month (price of Callminder + Callwaiting)
Divert all calls when "unavailable" to the Telecom number (in case your power fails) and use that Voip connection as you main line.

I'm basing that on the fact Wireless broadband can be pricey and this would possibly be about the same price plus it works in blackouts and Telecom broadband is generally considered good.

Equinox IT

Cloud spending continues to surge globally, but most organisations haven’t made the changes necessary to maximise the value and cost-efficiency benefits of their cloud investments. Download the whitepaper From Overspend to Advantage now.

Bung

6477 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#202082 19-Mar-2009 07:58

matt45: Hi,

As stated above the replacement to the neax switches is a new voip network, this network will be inplace around 2022 (prior to this in main centres).

In other words about 25 years after planning for replacing the 61Kais began. A definite win for the bean counters.

Decimate

120 posts

Master Geek

#202110 19-Mar-2009 10:07

Bung:
matt45: Hi,

As stated above the replacement to the neax switches is a new voip network, this network will be inplace around 2022 (prior to this in main centres).

In other words about 25 years after planning for replacing the 61Kais began. A definite win for the bean counters.

Lets hope everyone realises he meant 2012

mjb

996 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

#202111 19-Mar-2009 10:11

Decimate: Lets hope everyone realises he meant 2012

I find 2012 harder to believe than 2022... :/

contentsofsignaturemaysettleduringshipping

matt45

311 posts

Ultimate Geek

#202117 19-Mar-2009 10:22

i did mean 2022, most places will be done prior but 2022 is the projected date when the last ones will be decommissioned.

Edit: deleted random code that made its way onto the end of post.

cbrpilot

955 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

Spark NZ

#202934 23-Mar-2009 23:59

matt45: i did mean 2022, most places will be done prior but 2022 is the projected date when the last ones will be decommissioned.

Edit: deleted random code that made its way onto the end of post.

Not sure where 2022 came from but Telecom has Undertakings with the government to turn of the PSTN by 2020. You can bet they've got something planned to replace it .... not as if you can turn off every last Neax switch overnight ....

My views are my own, and may not necessarily represent those of my employer.

matt45

311 posts

Ultimate Geek

#202936 24-Mar-2009 00:11

there will be a new network in place by 2020 but that doesn’t necessarily mean the neax will be completely gone by then, remember it’s not just POTS lines on these switches, there are large cooperates that have WAC and ISDN PRA circuits etc which all have to be cut over to the new VOIP Platform and "new" *cough* Ericson axe Switches.

old3eyes

9119 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#202952 24-Mar-2009 08:19

matt45: there will be a new network in place by 2020 but that doesn’t necessarily mean the neax will be completely gone by then, remember it’s not just POTS lines on these switches, there are large cooperates that have WAC and ISDN PRA circuits etc which all have to be cut over to the? new VOIP Platform and "new" *cough* Ericson axe Switches.

These "new Ericson" switches that Telecom are using for ISDN are the old AMPS cell switches. I guess for ISDN in the NGN world there will be ISDN protacol converters at the customers site..

Regards,

Old3eyes

matt45

311 posts

Ultimate Geek

#202953 24-Mar-2009 08:22

yup hense my "*cough*" woot! 025 network FTW!

1 | 2