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zCelicaDude

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#40211 26-Aug-2009 19:03
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Hey all,

I am wondering if Telecom supports joining 2 x ADSL connections together, for double the bandwidth and speed,

I have found load balancing units which have 2x wan ports, but those only double your bandwidth, and not speed.

But overseas they can combine 2x dsl connections at the exchange, so that you only have 1 service over 2 pairs of copper...

Can anybody shed some light on this stuff?

I run a IT Business from home and need the speed :)

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  #250783 26-Aug-2009 19:30
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Have you read this?

Talks about a solution that Snap came up with for exactly what you're asking. So, maybe talk to them?



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  #250858 26-Aug-2009 22:05
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is done with SHDSL but not ADSL as far as i know .... done mainly for better upload rather than speed increase.

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  #251824 30-Aug-2009 22:58
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overseas - mainly in the UK, bonded adsl is provided by the smaller ISP's using their own equipment in unbundled exchanges. Its a specialist service and I believe only orcon and slingshot / vodafone have the capability to do this as chorus refuse to except on shdsl lines.

Oh also they have the capability since they own the dslam's - but dont as far as i know




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  #251832 30-Aug-2009 23:31
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Ahh chorus don't own/control the network equipment just the network facilitys and cabling.

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  #251838 31-Aug-2009 00:10
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matt45: Ahh chorus don't own/control the network equipment just the network facilitys and cabling.


Ohk. I always though chorus was the network and telecom / others were the retail




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  #251872 31-Aug-2009 08:55
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shdsl is a 4 wire product 1 pair used to transmit and 1 pair for recieve

but its more for big business as the cost is over a grand a month. depending on what you get




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  #252307 1-Sep-2009 16:59
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I would have thought that with the PPP terminating at the ISP, they could do multilink if they chose to.




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  #252403 1-Sep-2009 21:09
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BioNz: shdsl is a 4 wire product 1 pair used to transmit and 1 pair for recieve

but its more for big business as the cost is over a grand a month. depending on what you get



It's exchange dependent, on inner city exchanges the cost is closer to $300/month for a 2M circuit.  It only reaches $1k+ when you get into areas that are miles out.

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  #252427 1-Sep-2009 23:06
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richms: I would have thought that with the PPP terminating at the ISP, they could do multilink if they chose to.


The ISAMS proxy the PPPoA session initially - I have not tried MLPPPoA but I would be suprised if they passed it.

Pens comments on the Snap thread are spot on. You will end up with out of order issues doing per packet based load balancing and per flow load balancing does not appear to be what the OP is after.

There are ways to do this but it requires potentially some bespoke setup from your ISP. Setting up a L2PT tunnel to your ISP and then running MLPPPoE over this would be one example. Of course dependent on the traffic type passing over these links then that might start getting pretty weighty on the overhead.

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  #252899 3-Sep-2009 12:40
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raytaylor:
matt45: Ahh chorus don't own/control the network equipment just the network facilitys and cabling.


Ohk. I always though chorus was the network and telecom / others were the retail


Telecom Wholesale owns the exchanges and cabinets if I'm not mistaken.

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  #252931 3-Sep-2009 15:46
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I think the market for this type service would be so small it's not economic to offer it.

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