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#4353 6-Jul-2005 15:23
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That got you looking huh?

Some managed accounts are being offered proactively, rates as low as 10c for land to cell calling, and free internal calling (mob to mob and mob to land).

-without- have their monthly price jacked up to compensate...

Its not all bad news and money grubbing....

Im certain that while a good proportion of the country has spent years moaning about mobile costs, both networks have continued to drop pricing to levels where a huge proportion of the population can now afford to use cellphones for a large proportion of their communications.

If we carry on at this rate, we will have pricing that is considered -very- good before too long, yet even if every service was $10 each flat rate, im sure people would still say that its too expensive.







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Exactly - no matter how cheap you make it people will still complain. It is shame that people tend to be less vocal when it comes to petrol and power pricing. Genesis put up my gas by 18% this year and they charge $30 p/month for the privilege of having gas whether I use it or not. As it is used for cooking and heating Gas is a necessity. I can't say that my mobile phone is a necessity.



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  #16375 8-Jul-2005 17:22

Totally agree Jama- look at Petrol goes up to $130 plus per litre and everyone just accepts it but if Telecom dared to raise the price of Landline access for example it is in the papers for weeks and then the government steps in and says you cant do that because blah blah. It is not like you can go to another supplier with Petrol and negotiate a better rate as in Telecom/Voda. Because all the Petrol companies stick together

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  #16378 8-Jul-2005 17:48
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$130 a litre? Thats news to me.

Comparision to enegy companies is a bit flawed because it all comes from a roughly single source. While phone companies are free to offer better deals for internal (ie. voda to voda) usage.


Edit: I would not complain at a $10 flat rate.
Edit 2: Replaced beater with better :P




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  #16379 8-Jul-2005 17:51

Sorry the decimil point jumped from my keyboard- hey Im sticking to the excuse

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  #16380 8-Jul-2005 18:13
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I thought it was, just joking ;)

Today is my third day on Motormouth on account - while there are some aspects which leaves much to be desired, but so far seems quite good.




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  #16385 8-Jul-2005 21:31
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cokemaster: I would not complain at a $10 flat rate.
$10 account fee + $10 for voice calls + $10 for text + $10 for p2t + $10 for data + $10 for wap + $10 for video clips + $10 for photo messaging (or any combination of the above), and you bet your bottom dollar that there would still be complainers.... and plenty of them







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  #16386 8-Jul-2005 22:27
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Yeah, I guess. But then again, some people can never be happy - even if its free we'd probably have complaints.

Again if they charged $10 per sevice, I'd have no problem. The lower the prices, the more I'll use.




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  #16388 8-Jul-2005 22:32
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I see that Telstra PTT is 1c per min to one phone or 2c per min for group calls. Their flat rate is A$50 monthly...

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  #16408 10-Jul-2005 23:03
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I you are a good customer whom spends a lot, The companies do and should look to lower your rates.

Australia's prices are very expensive as a casual user.

25c TXT, 75c MMS, 80c per min + 25c flagfalls, (telstra)

If you are a higher user, you can cap like $500 of usage for say $80 a month. suddenly those prices become very, very attractive.

basically,

49 buck cap = $230 Credit
Divide all rates by 4.7

5c TXT, 16c MMS, 17c per min + 5c flagfalls,

$80 buck cap = $500 Credit
Divide all rates by 6.25

3c TXT etc......


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  #16413 11-Jul-2005 09:27

yep, being in the industry most of us probably have to have heaps of services on our phones eg P2T, video,wap etc a flat rate one fee for everything would be great- except I am sure it would be very high to cover all bases. I am waiting to see how video streaming gets charged because I just cant wait for the latest clip from Peety and Jaydee (LOL) -if you have a Telecom Sanyo check it out...sorry for my sick humour if you dont enjoy it.....

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  #16418 11-Jul-2005 14:20
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Pete and Jaydee rock.... (as does streaming video)

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  #16420 11-Jul-2005 14:45
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What Australia has done is also increase the APRU for many customers. The $49 cap has lured people into spending more than they did before simply because they are getting $230 worth of value for $49 rather than $30 worth of value for $30. It worked so well for Vodafone it turned their network around completely and gave them more customers in the 1st Q of this year than Telstra & Optus combined. All the networks are now focussing their efforts into such bundling.

It will be interesting to see if the concept catches on elsewhere in the world, us geek folk know you're not really 'saving' money but people are suckers when it comes to thinking they are getting themsevles a bargain!

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  #16421 11-Jul-2005 15:13

It is very like Voda's extensive advertising around the Talk Zero plan- it sounds great that you can call within your group for nothing- but once you look at the rates for calling outside your group plus the monthly rental you can very soon be better off on a normal group plan with 10 cent internal rate and reduced rental and external calling

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  #16422 11-Jul-2005 15:15
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I know someone getting 34/34/0 + 10c weeknight national calling - and they arent a large business.

Thats good rates.







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  #16424 11-Jul-2005 15:29
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MFR001: It is very like Voda's extensive advertising around the Talk Zero plan- it sounds great that you can call within your group for nothing- but once you look at the rates for calling outside your group plus the monthly rental you can very soon be better off on a normal group plan with 10 cent internal rate and reduced rental and external calling


Talk Zero isn't for everybody, that's why they have other plans. There are companies where 90% of calls are among staff who are saving huge $$ being on this plan.


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