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#45406 2-Nov-2009 09:59
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Telecom is sending a press release saying users will have free uploads during holidays. This is the official release:


Free uploads for summer holidays

Take the rapid growth in photo-sharing sites and social media, add the Kiwi fondness for passing the holiday photo album around the rellies, top it with a bit of Christmas spirit, and you’ve got the recipe for a great broadband summer.
 
From now until the end of January, all Telecom home broadband customers will be able to upload whatever they want without affecting their monthly data allowance. 
 
“Postcards, Christmas cards, holiday snaps and videos: the great Kiwi Christmas holiday is all about sharing experiences with family and friends,” says Telecom Director of Home Ralph Brayham.
 
“Letting New Zealanders upload content online for free is our way of recognising and encouraging the modern equivalent of that great tradition.” 
 
Ralph says the past few years have seen an explosion in user-generated content (UGC) on the internet, with sites like Facebook, YouTube and MySpace routinely leading the way in both user numbers and growth rates.
 
“In mid-October, the 4 billionth photo was uploaded to Flickr, while internet analysts are predicting that more than half of US internet users will be posting UGC within the next five years.
 
“Our customers are as keen as anyone else to join in, and we want to make it easy for them to do so.”

Downloading data still counts towards the monthly data allowance.


It doesn't say anywhere is just pictures, or if limited to specific sites (Flickr, Facebook, Twitpic) so I assume is everything?

In any case I've asked for clarification...




 

 

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  #269187 2-Nov-2009 10:03
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Confirmed this is for all uploads. Also confirmed it's from 2nd November 2009 through 31st January 2010.




 

 

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  #269196 2-Nov-2009 10:28
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wow - this would be great for people who need to boost their seed ratios for torrents.. ohh i mean family pictures..

I'm not on Telecom/Xtra, but i know that this *freebie* will be abused..




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  #269253 2-Nov-2009 13:15
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It's been standard practice in Aussie for ISP's to not count upload toward your data cap for years. It's good to see Telecom finally getting into gear and shaking things up here, I hope it becomes permanent.

All our ADSL lines are asymmetric (faster down than up) yet ISP transit and backhaul are mostly symmetric (as far as I know), it's pretty nonsensical to charge for upload data.

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  #269343 2-Nov-2009 18:00
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ihug used to do free uploads for a while - until 2005/6.

Currently, my download:upload ratio is about 7.5:1 so realistically, it's a pretty big number (and I don't use P2P)

I wouldn't expect free uploads as a permanent feature just yet - though it would cut 1/8 off our bandwidth usage :)




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  #269345 2-Nov-2009 18:10
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No wonder my torrent uploads didn't show up in the usage meter! haha

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  #269464 2-Nov-2009 22:49
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I'm quite surprised with some of the things Telecom is coming out with at the moment.
That's not to say they are unwelcome or not long over-due, it has definitely been a positive move.


Good on Telecom!





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  #269465 2-Nov-2009 22:53
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I remember the days when TelstraClear charged all national traffic at 10% and traffic between TelstraClear users was free. Great gaming sessions with voice between us.




 

 

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  #269479 2-Nov-2009 23:25
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hmm ... woo hoo!




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  #269618 3-Nov-2009 14:18
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well it will halve the cost of maintaining a 1:1 ratio on torrents. I'm about 120 gigs down from 1:1 on a music tracker I use heavily so it would be a welcome thing for other isps to copy




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  #269624 3-Nov-2009 14:34
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Great time to get into online backups I suppose.

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  #269637 3-Nov-2009 14:56
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I wonder that the upload speed will be? bogged down to dialup per chance?
Now heres a good chance to get your ratio up nice and high on torrent sites though! :D

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  #269639 3-Nov-2009 15:00
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velofille: I wonder that the upload speed will be? bogged down to dialup per chance?
Now heres a good chance to get your ratio up nice and high on torrent sites though! :D


I wouldnt think upload speeds should be a problem.

I'm pretty sure someone said earlier (possibly in a different thread) that once the connection gets back to the ISP its all symmetrical, but from you to your exchange it's only around 1mbps (depending on your plan etc) if you are on ADSL/ADSL2.

Long story short, I'm pretty sure they'll be able to handle it though.





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  #269688 3-Nov-2009 17:16
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My mistake - I need to seed out 160 gigs to get back to 1:1 -

* Up: 297.76 GB
* Down: 458.27 GB
* Ratio: 0.64




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  #269771 3-Nov-2009 21:15
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If I had to guess, this is all about promoting local seeds. It is a theory that has done the rounds for ages.
Unmetered uploads promotes behaviour that has individuals offering P2P content for others to grab.
This is probably the big T dipping their toe in the water to see if this market strategy causes people to share locally between themselves rather that 1000 people all grabbing copy each of house from california rather than karori.

If the theory holds, this will be the future.

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slowblink: If I had to guess, this is all about promoting local seeds. It is a theory that has done the rounds for ages.
Unmetered uploads promotes behaviour that has individuals offering P2P content for others to grab.
This is probably the big T dipping their toe in the water to see if this market strategy causes people to share locally between themselves rather that 1000 people all grabbing copy each of house from california rather than karori.

If the theory holds, this will be the future.


while i agree with your theory and reasoning, and have suggested this may be a welcome side-effect myself, i doubt that this would be the reason for telecom offering the free upload.  They are probably expecting most of their torrent clients to be on the new plans which dont charge for upload anyway.  Its more likely driven by marketing as a way to try and show the public that they get a flickr.com pro account and give them a couple of months to get hooked by uploading all their photos to the service..




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