international texting from 027

Forums › Spark New Zealand (including Skinny and BigPipe) › international texting from 027

jonp

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

#4717 20-Aug-2005 18:10

hi

i am trying to text my mates in the uk and it doesn't seem to be possible from 027. I have looked into it and it appears that telecom were to use some company to allow texting to most networks overseas by late 2004. does anybody know if this has happened and if not if it is ever likely to happen ??

tonyhughes

Hawkes Bay
8476 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6

Retired Mod

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#18793 20-Aug-2005 21:43

O2 and T-Mobile 2-Way; Orange, Vodafone and Hutchinson 3G 1-way; all others 1-way with reply path

One-way with reply path means that the overseas recipient can receive your text message and reply to it but cannot send you a message out of the blue. The Reply path is available for two days after the recipient receives your initial text message.

Text messages sent overseas only cost you 20 cents a message - just like when you're sending Text Messages in New Zealand. So it's one of the most affordable ways around for keeping in touch with friends and family overseas.

It's easy to text overseas

All you do is dial the country code for the country you're texting, the mobile prefix (without the zero) and then the mobile number you're wanting to text. For example, if you're texting someone who lives in Australia, whose mobile number is '444 123 4567' you simply dial:

from http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,3900,101535-201470,00.html

If you are having trouble with this not working correctly you should probably approach Telecom directly about your problem.

jonp

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

#18798 21-Aug-2005 10:35

so if two way means two way, and one way reply means as it says does one way mean i can text them but they can't reply or visa versa ?

I thought this was going to change so that the majority of networks could be texted as two way ? I guess this is not the case ?

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=2223

freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
80944 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 41698

Administrator

ID Verified

Trusted

Geekzone

Lifetime subscriber

#18799 21-Aug-2005 11:06

The text says "The agreement provides Telecom with the ability to exchange SMS messages with a range of carriers with whom InphoMatch has agreements, regardless of what network technology is utilized, including TDMA, CDMA and GSM.", which doesn't mean full two-way would be available for all networks - before that not even one way was available!

InphoMatch (now called Mobile 365) is a clearing house for SMS/MMS and other messaging services. It provides services for Vodafone, most US-based operators, and Telecom New Zealand. But it can't guarantee two-way, because it really depends on what services operators have, service levels, etc...

Referral links: Quic Broadband (free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE) | Samsung | AliExpress | Wise | Sharesies

Support Geekzone by subscribing (browse ads-free), or making a one-off or recurring donation through PressPatron.

smallgear

30 posts

Geek

#18803 21-Aug-2005 14:10

jonp: hi

i am trying to text my mates in the uk and it doesn't seem to be possible from 027. I have looked into it and it appears that telecom were to use some company to allow texting to most networks overseas by late 2004. does anybody know if this has happened and if not if it is ever likely to happen ??

Very shortly they will be able to text both ways more and more, just a matter of waiting

tonyhughes

Hawkes Bay
8476 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6

Retired Mod

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#18805 21-Aug-2005 15:04

jonp: so if two way means two way, and one way reply means as it says does one way mean i can text them but they can't reply or visa versa ?

One Way means you can text them only, and not recieve a reply. (I suppose it should really say 'send only' ... )

tonyhughes

Hawkes Bay
8476 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6

Retired Mod

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#18806 21-Aug-2005 15:04

Welcome to Geekzone by the way :-)

Samsung

Shop now on Samsung phones, tablets, TVs and more (affiliate link).

jonp

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

#18826 21-Aug-2005 21:37

Well if anybody is interested here is the word from the horses mouth - so to speak...

Thank you for your email.

Regarding your query, the one-way with reply path means that the overseas recipient can receive your text message and reply to it but cannot send you a message out of the blue. The Reply path is available for two days after the recipient receives your initial text message.

When texting to a Vodafone, Orange or Hutchison mobile in the UK, this means that when you send a text message it will be received however the person receiving your text message will only be able to reply to it.

There are a number of reasons for the One Way Reply path. Firstly, this is not because we do not want their messages to terminate on our network. There are a number of technical and commercial reasons why a 2 way SMS solution is not enabled for Telecom to the UK and all other international destinations.

1) We do not operate on a GSM network, where messages sent on this network can be sent across all countries using this GSM network.

2) In order for us to send 1 way to the UK, we have to send our messages through an intermediary port (Mobile way) who then route our messages through to the destination mobile and network. In order for us to receive replies back to NZ, we would need to have contracts with every operator in the UK and open up our number range to their entire range of mobile numbers. This is a major task in itself given that most countries do not have 2 or 3 operators like in NZ.

3) International SMS is also not free for the operators. Telecom needs to agree with each operator what the mobile termination (MT) charge will be with each operator. E.g. Orange in the UK may charge us 14 cents to send a message to a customer on their network and vice versa for them to send one to our network.

Unfortunately, I cannot provide you with a date of when a 2 way solution/capability will be available.