When are we going to see EVDO phones

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Topic # 4811 30-Aug-2005 01:12

Hi i was wondering if anyone has any information about when telecom will be releasing an EVDO phone that actuly use the EVDO network?
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Pantech TX160c http://www.curitel.com/english/product/cdma/TX-160C.asp
Samsung SCH-A890 http://www.mobiledia.com/reviews/samsung/sch-a890/page1.html

i was also wanting to know when nokia would be releasing there 2mp 6265?

Thanks

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Reply # 19318 30-Aug-2005 08:37

The HTC Harrier uses the EVDO network.

I am not aware of the 160c/a890/6265 coming anytime soon.

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Reply # 19341 30-Aug-2005 15:54

Sanyo SCH-9000 that is EV-DO and is on the cards for here

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Reply # 19345 30-Aug-2005 18:49

skyplonk: Sanyo SCH-9000 that is EV-DO and is on the cards for here

specs.. features?

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Reply # 19346 30-Aug-2005 19:15

Hi
So if i read this topic correct Telecom have no EVDO phones?If so what is T3G? Just a marketing ploy to make you think you are getting 3g?

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Reply # 19347 30-Aug-2005 19:28

Nope, this is not correct. Telecom NZ offers data cards and the Harrier Pocket PC Phone Edition for example. I am not sure about mobile phone models, but the Harrier is a good showcase - I get averages of 500-600kbps, with peaks of 1Mbps (maximum of 2Mbps).

It is not a ploy... Compare this to Vodafone UMTS network that gets averages of 200kbps with maximum of 384kbps. Also, CDMA 1xRTT by itself is already much faster than GPRS, with some averages of 90-100kbps, so even the older mobile phones on Telecom would get a good throughput for dowloads.

But back on topic, since we don't want this thread to become a "this network or that network".

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Reply # 19361 30-Aug-2005 22:38

this leaves the question: What is T3G? is it 3G or not?

(or am i mixing cats with pigeons..?)

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Reply # 19362 30-Aug-2005 22:53

Yes, it is 3G, according to the ITU. Actually under certain conditions even CDMA 1xRTT was considered 3G. However I am more conservative and would consider 3G anything with speeds of 384kbps and up.

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Reply # 19363 30-Aug-2005 22:58

It is my understanding that T3G is telecoms name for its services such as video messaging etc. Which is quite misleading as the only places in the country that have true 3G, 1xEV is Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin airport

1xRTT has generally been considered 2.75G

For a good overview of 3G in all its forms go to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G

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Reply # 19370 31-Aug-2005 08:48

brad05: 1xRTT has generally been considered 2.75G

The trouble is, when people say something often enough, it can become gospel (even if wrong).

The Commerce Comission, carriers, media, and other individuals dont define what 3G is. That job has already been taken.

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Reply # 19372 31-Aug-2005 08:53

taniwha: this leaves the question: What is T3G? is it 3G or not?

Yup - T3G is Telecoms brand name for a collection of services which operate both on its 3G EVDO system (Mobile Broadband + more services to come), and on its 3G 1XRTT system (video messaging, P2T, etc etc.)

There seems to be lots of debate about whats 3G and whats not, but they have built a nationwide network that conforms to 3G standards, so I guess they are more than justified in using a 3G centric brand name to describe those services.

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Reply # 19381 31-Aug-2005 10:24

freitasm: I am more conservative and would consider 3G anything with speeds of 384kbps and up.

That's a strange number to choose..... why not a round number like 300 or 400?

but what a conincidence! that's the speed of voda's new 3G! Looks like they only just sneaked in enough speed.

(tounge firmly in cheek)

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Reply # 19391 31-Aug-2005 12:18

Again, for the 50,000,000 time CDMA 2000 1xRTT is 3G.

Back on topic... why would you want or need an EVDO phone when EVDO does data only not voice/data?