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Topic # 5113 29-Sep-2005 20:37

Hey,

While searching the net one day when board I came accross a video calling phone that was cdma and evdo.... Has anyone else came accross one and does anyone know when they will come to New Zealand ?

Some Links:

http://www.mport.ru/catalog/phone/samsung/sch-v300/

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.portel.it/news/news2.asp%3Fnews_id%3D5054&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsamsung%2Bv300%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DOrD%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Cheers,

Jake.

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Reply # 20751 29-Sep-2005 21:23
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This phone was displayed at an expo in Hong Kong in late 2002 if i remember rightly so i doubt we will be seeing it here.

We probably wont be seeing video calling here until Telecom roll out Rev A



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Reply # 20752 29-Sep-2005 21:29

Ive heard strong rumors that video calling will be aviliable on Telecom within the next 12 months , Why do they need to wait for rev a? Im guessing its the upload speed... Also what type of handsets can we expect to see here ?

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Reply # 20753 29-Sep-2005 21:38
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Check out Sprint PCS http://www.sprintpcs.com, we could potentialy get any of the handsets they have

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Reply # 20754 29-Sep-2005 21:48
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I thought telecom were saying that their network was faster so video calling shouldnt be a problem?!? - Yet again Vodafone has come out with something cool to get more market share



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Reply # 20755 29-Sep-2005 21:56

Sprint havent launched their evdo yet... But they clam to have a video calling phone on the way. I think the only reason telecom hasnt got video calling is they cant get the EVDO video calling handsets. I have tried searching the net for some but I just cant find any...

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Reply # 20756 29-Sep-2005 21:57
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r0bbie: I thought telecom were saying that their network was faster so video calling shouldnt be a problem?!? - Yet again Vodafone has come out with something cool to get more market share


Yep. Telecom may be the winner in terms of raw speed but, because 3GSM is a more accepted technology, Vodafone seem to be in a better position to actually implement 3G features.

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Reply # 20757 29-Sep-2005 22:55
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KickbackTV: Sprint havent launched their evdo yet...


Sprint have EVDO coverage in most major cities and airports in the US.

EVDO Rev 0 can handle video calling no problems, but i was thinking that since Telecom havent released it yet they will probably wait till Rev A and maybe use it as a rollout feature, just my thoughts on it

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Reply # 20762 30-Sep-2005 02:07
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Sprint has launched their EVDO network and it is working already. Not with the same coverage as Verizon Wireless, which started first, but it is there.





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Reply # 20768 30-Sep-2005 06:40
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KickbackTV: Sprint havent launched their evdo yet... But they clam to have a video calling phone on the way. I think the only reason telecom hasnt got video calling is they cant get the EVDO video calling handsets. I have tried searching the net for some but I just cant find any...

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It is nothing to do with speed. It is the simple fact video calling was part of the 3GSM specifications when they were developed. It was not part of the CDMA or EV-DO specs but will be included as part of future upgrades much like SMS was not available on Telecom's 025 TDMA network for many years until an upgrade to the spec was developed.

What I do find funny is Telecom still heavily pushing video messaging, in particular the current TV ad with the little girl wanting to send her father a video of her spots and him sending a reply. It's a shame Vodafone's policy is never to attack the competition or compare products, I'd love to see a Vodafone response saying why settle for a video recording when on Vodafone 3G you can video call and see the other person in real time! :-)


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Reply # 20803 30-Sep-2005 11:25
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Personally I think Video messaging and Video calling are two completely different solutions, and certainly not competitive to each other.

If I want to record a moment for posterity, and email it around and show lots of people, then video calling of zero use for that.

If i want to have a face to face call with my partner whilst on a business trip, then video calling would be the answer.

Its all going to be a moot point soon, as TNZ is -likely- to have Video calling by end of 2006, and both carriers will have both technologies (calling/messaging) - so I think a lot of hot air is being blown over difference between the two, when in reality, Voda just launched a new service first.

For the record, im impressed by Vodas video calling, much better than a lot of reviews i have seen/read. Its just a pity that the coverage footprint for video calling is so limited at present. Telecom might come in late (all of one year), but by that time Voda will have done the hard yards to educate people about its benefits, and TNZ will possibly still have a big coverage advantage when they launch.

Swings and roundabouts people, swings and roundabouts.




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Reply # 20851 30-Sep-2005 19:57
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I also think the reverse has happened as well - Vodafone have had video messaging for years with quite a few handsets supporting this however they never promoted it. Telecom coming along promoting the service seems to have made many 021 owners realise they actually have the same service.

I guess advertising can sometimes be good and can sometimes backfire, much like the old Telecom ads where they got stuck into BellSouth's call quality and coverage but kept on comparing themselves and "digital" which was supposed to mean BellSouth. The problem was it was causing serious damage to the reputation to Telecom's TDMA network which was being launched at the time and customers refused to change because Telecom had just told them how bad digital networks were supposed to be. It's kind of ironic that the end of the analogue network is now near as digital has replaced it!


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Reply # 20854 30-Sep-2005 20:25
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Disenchanted or anybody is there any news when the 025 network will be given the flick, This will be a day in the history books

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Disenchanted: If I want to record a moment for posterity, and email it around and show lots of people, then video calling of zero use for that.


Actually I think a better way would be to make a video call to a modem/web service that answered the call and just recorded the feed, then you could download the file and forward it, or send invites to people to view the link. Much more user friendly than trying to send it from the mobile phone.

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Reply # 20856 30-Sep-2005 22:35
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johnr: Disenchanted or anybody is there any news when the 025 network will be given the flick, This will be a day in the history books


End of 2007, Telecom gave 5years notice that they would be closing the 025 network down when they launched cdmaone in 2002

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Reply # 20872 1-Oct-2005 12:06
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The latest official answer I hear from Telecom is "mid 2007", but end of 2007 sounds much more likely to me.




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