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Topic # 5237 11-Oct-2005 11:06
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Hi team,

I have been using 027 for years and I have a Palm M505 which connects very slowly to a Kyocera 2235.

I want to move up to a mobile jetstream device using Palm, because of the apps I run on the palm.

A Bluetooth headset is attractive so I can run the Palm apps while on the phone.

The Treo 600 is Mobile Broadband only (a name I found on the weekend Telecom now use, so they don't have to show the crippled speed of the 600)

Is there any public domain information on where Telecom is going to with the Treo models?

Is there any information on whether an unlocked Sprint Treo 650 will be able to run locally?

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Bernard

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  Reply # 21319 11-Oct-2005 11:29

telepermit dictates imported (parallel or not through telecom channels) will not be connected to the network. Check www.telepermit.co.nz or do a search on geekzone about imported and overseas cdma handsets.

Despite sharing many of the same handsets programming differs between sprint and telecom nz handsets so you will only be able to get a treo 650 through telecom and not by bringing a sprint one into nz. If you have a telecom account manager they are a good point of contact as they are there to meet your needs.

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  Reply # 21320 11-Oct-2005 11:35
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The Treo 600 runs at the same speed as your Kyocera 2235. 1xRTT which is a max of 153kbps in both directions. This is also the case for Treo 650.

 
 
 
 


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Reply # 21323 11-Oct-2005 11:40
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The Treo 600 is CDMA 1xRTT only, so it will be a little faster than GPRS (quite a bit actually), but still much slower than a CDMA EVDO device.

Haven't heard any plans on the Treo 650, but this is still a CDMA 1xRTT device, and imported CDMA phones are not connected to Telecom New Zealand network.

The Treo Windows Mobile will be CDMA EVDO, and during the press conference Palm said they will work with other CDMA operators outside the US (it is being launched on Verizon Wireless from Q1 2006).







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  Reply # 21324 11-Oct-2005 11:43
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Interesting..

>>so you will only be able to get a treo 650 through telecom

Does this mean a 650 could be got through Telecom? Since it is the BlueTooth I'm after?



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  Reply # 21325 11-Oct-2005 11:46
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And more..

>>The Treo 600 is CDMA 1xRTT only, so it will be a little faster than GPRS (quite a bit actually), >>but still much slower than a CDMA EVDO device.


So the best bet is the Treo 600 in the meantime with a teardrop earpiece until EVDO?



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  Reply # 21326 11-Oct-2005 11:49
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Treo 650 CDMA not to far away
An official announcement about the release of the Treo 650 is due late October early November.
I also read in the telecommunications review that "cookie time" have just replaced all their Kyocera 7135's with CDMA Treo 650's.



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  Reply # 21334 11-Oct-2005 13:05
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>>Treo 650 CDMA not to far away

Now that is exactly what I wanted to hear, no need to change to WINCE apps, yay.

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  Reply # 21353 11-Oct-2005 21:44
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A couple of definitions just to make sure everyone is on the same page about the Telecom branding of these terms.

Mobile Broadband is the high speed 3G EVDO service that will be in all main towns and cities in NZ by Xmas '05.

It is not to be confused with the 1XRTT service with the brand name of Mobile Jetstream, which is a 3G service which doesnt meet the generally accepted definition of broadband.

Mobile Broadband avg 300 - 500kbps {EVDO}
Mobile Jetstream avg 40 - 80kbps [claimed] (I usually get 110-120kbps though) {CDMA 1XRTT}




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  Reply # 21378 12-Oct-2005 12:21

So now that Telecom have made the Treo 600 end of life - does that mean we will get the 650, or are they going to hang out for the windows version!



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  Reply # 21379 12-Oct-2005 12:26
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That is essentially my question.

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  Reply # 21382 12-Oct-2005 14:45
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My best would be the EV-DO Windows treo is at least a year away. Verzion will be the only CDMA carrier to have it for the first 3 -4 months, then it will have to come here and make it out the other side of the PTC process..

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  Reply # 21383 12-Oct-2005 14:48

Bummer- we seem to be one of the first in the globe to be getting the Apache- if they can just realease te darn thing, be cool to get the Treo Windows at the same time! Great hardware to go with Telecoms nationwide 3G roll out.

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  Reply # 21386 12-Oct-2005 15:34
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MFR001: So now that Telecom have made the Treo 600 end of life - does that mean we will get the 650, or are they going to hang out for the windows version!

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  Reply # 21389 12-Oct-2005 15:39
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I'm watching, but nothing is happening! : )



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  Reply # 21391 12-Oct-2005 15:48
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>>So now that Telecom have made the Treo 600 end of life - does that mean we will get the >>650, or are they going to hang out for the windows version!

Since the Treo 600 is now available on contract for as little as $149 (yesterday) then I would have to agree it is at runout, meaning there is something in the wind; question is how many Treo 600's are out there in 027 land; That really says how popular the palm smartphone is.

Having said that, does Telecom think they can push Palm users to the Apache/WM2005 or do they have the logical shortterm upgrade in the TREO 650 CDMA just around the corner to fill in until EVDO in 12 months time?

This will be interesting.

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