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Topic # 6057 21-Dec-2005 19:18
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I have heard through various dealer and cleint sources that Tçom are not looking to spend anything much worth thinking about on 027 1xrtt expansion until atleast end of 06 due to the EVDO and EVDO rel A roll outs.

Down south here Vodafone have rolled out several larger Rural sites in recent monts yet T com have built few if if any in Canty region.

Anyone know if this is true or if they are just waiting for next fiancial year to start?

I am looking at the best network for coverage whilst travelling in a car, CDMA is the best technology but Tcom haven't done it as well as they could. May be because they told Lucent how to build it rather than Lucent doing it for them (world leaders in all)

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  Reply # 25119 21-Dec-2005 19:44
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I have heard similar, noticed a Voda site at turn off to Darfield and a brand new one at Rolleston.

They are still investing heavily everywhere. Telecom are focused on 3g at this stage i think. May pay for them to look after the areas they have been so strong in the past. CDMA is certainly a better coverage technology but if the site numbers are their Voda could quite easily better the foot print.

Telecom hopefully will see this or find some more coin for rural sites and City coverage especially in CHCH.






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  Reply # 25125 21-Dec-2005 21:51
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i hope they never cover vogeltown.. i like my cellular silence :-)

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 25126 21-Dec-2005 21:55

Telecom is investing about $1.7 million in additional temporary mobile coverage to meet the demand at New Zealand’s favorite holiday spots this summer.

I CAN tell you they are always expanding their network. They are focusing heavily getting evdo up and running nation wide before xmas I would say thats where there recourses are. After thats complete i guess its back to spending more on 1xrtt

Here are the sites temp sites going up for summer.

Extra 027 Coverage – Summer 05/06

Northland:
Kai Iwi Lakes, Kaikohe, Kaitaia, Mangonui,
Ruapekapeka, Tikitikioure, Huruiki, Mangawhai,
Tutukaka.

Western Bay of Plenty:
Waihi Beach, Mt Maunganui

Thames-Coromandel:
Whiritoa Beach

Coromandel Peninsula:
Hahei, Opito Bay, Red Hill, Tokatea, Tairua, Whangamata

Timaru:
Grantlea, Mt Horrible, Washdyke, Twizel, Otematata

Kapiti Coast:
Paekakariki, Paraparaumu, Paraparaumu Beach

Taranaki:
Blagdon Hill, Jackson's Lookout, Hawera, Opunake

Invercargill:
Bluff Hill, Riverton, Woodlands

Tasman/Nelson/Marlborough:
Mapua, Nelson Port, Tahunanui, Hope-Richmond, Wakefield

Queenstown:
Cromwell, Mt Difficulty, Luggate, Waikerikeri, Roys Peninsula

Taupo:
Opepe, Pihanga, Turangi, Tuhingamata, Wairakei

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  Reply # 25133 22-Dec-2005 06:33
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hi - i saw that in the media release as well.

hope they do continue 1xrtt expansion next year. The only prob with summer temp sites is that they are temporary.






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  Reply # 25134 22-Dec-2005 06:49
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Most of those sites already exist, they are merely temporary capacity upgrades for summer.

Looking at that list makes me wish Vodafone would do something about Paekakariki coverage as it's absolutely shocking. They have a site above the township with sectored panels facing North & South. The town is directly below the hill to the West but the site is about 250m right above the township and inbuilding coverage is virtually non existant..:-(


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  Reply # 25142 22-Dec-2005 09:27
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Thats true, especially the areas like Wanaka, Coromandle and Queenstown etc. Telecom do errect temp sites such as in Tasman area etc and taken them away early new year.

The major issues in South island are Mid Canty rural, South Canty rural & ChCh, tai Tapu is crap and Voda have a site on the way to Akaroa and Telecom is fairly average their right now.

I think they are building one their next year though so can't wait for that.






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Reply # 25147 22-Dec-2005 09:43
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taniwha: i hope they never cover vogeltown.. i like my cellular silence :-)

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  Reply # 25148 22-Dec-2005 09:43
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I think both companies seem to be putting more $$ into 3G rollouts than actually expanding coverage, it's nothing like a few years ago where both were rolling our vast numbers of sites. There are so many areas where you would assume their should be coverage where there isn't - Telecom coverage is crap on in the East Cape compared to Vodafone and yet Vodafone have crap coverage in Taranaki region. I found it funny stopping in Opunake the other day heading up to New Plymouth to find the local appliance store had Vodafone signs up in the window when there is no coverage for about 20km either way of the town! :-)

The surburban areas are no different, there are still areas with no coverage in the Wellington region for both networks. I'm not meaning places to poor inbuilding coverage but suburbs with nil or very patchy coverage.

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  Reply # 25150 22-Dec-2005 09:49
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Coverage is a tricky one because of the small population but the land area of NZ is similar in size to the UK. There would be cell sites on both networks that might carry one voice call a day or less.

Telecom is always expanding coverage.

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  Reply # 25155 22-Dec-2005 10:10
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That is true Jama but that is often not always true especially rich rural areas where coverage is crap but pockets are deep.

Many of my it clients in Canterbury have been promised new sites to co inside with large uplift in spend but they never come and instead the money goes to Auck etc.

I have been talking to some large corp rural clients and if the support could be found they would help fund or sort finance for a rural network of sites in poor coverage areusing 1xrtt to onsell network usage to telecom etc.

They see the need for the best cell cover in all rural areas and farmers want full automation and cell service usage and currently don;t really get it.

Anyone think this is doable?





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  Reply # 25158 22-Dec-2005 10:30
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Yes it is doable. You might want to flick me an email and we can discuss further.

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  Reply # 25174 22-Dec-2005 12:16
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ok if it's doable would it be viable, considering if the in the South island 15 - 20 new sites may be required 2 $600,000 - $1 mil ea

The Technology behind Telstras Booster rural sites could be used possibly in rural areas in NZ?

Would the spectrum be able to be used as well?








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  Reply # 25175 22-Dec-2005 12:20
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Npot sure to be honest but we do have people in the company who handle this sort of thing. You never know but some of the areas may already be on the list of planned coverage expansion.

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Reply # 25177 22-Dec-2005 12:26
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There can't be that many places in NZ that are not covered by CDMA or GSM coverage. Its nice to sometimes break away from it if you ask me. (but no one did so guess my thoughts don't count)

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  Reply # 25182 22-Dec-2005 13:00
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Thanks

I know it's out of Left field but people have discussed with me.

Even setting up reflector repeaters on valleys and mountainous areas to increase coverage etc. Rural customers will pay to do this if it can benefit them as well as Telecom.

There isn't many areas that their is no coverage but in rural areas often the coverage is marginal or very poor. This way the coverage is boosted in current coverage areas and in areas Telecom may not intend going but rural customers see it as a good place to have reception.

Johhr i agree it's nice sometime to not have coverage but from a saftey and financial point of view having coverage extended and enhanced throughout rural NZ will benefit every body. Travelers, farmers and rural population will use their mobiles more and more. when you open up coverage people use it.

Maybe the Govt could do this - hahahaha - not likely.









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