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Topic # 65928 9-Aug-2010 16:57
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Sorry if this is somewhere else, but I can't find it if it is.

I have a Belkin 4 port Wireless N modem I would prefer to use to connect to Telecom [Supplied one is G and also disconnects too often] but have not had any luck getting it to work. I have looked on telecom's site and obtained the configuration settings with regard to setting up a modem and tried various things to no effect.

I can obviously daisy chain the modems to use the wireless N capability but I already have an 8 port router attached and would prefer not to have 3 sockets being used to achieve this.

Has anyone successfully bought and used a non-supplied modem to connect to Telecom?

DS

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  Reply # 365495 9-Aug-2010 17:04
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I've got a Linksys WAG160N to work okay, but no experience with Belkin sorry.

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  Reply # 365497 9-Aug-2010 17:06
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Yep I run a Linksys Wireless N router / modem myself.


IIRC the only settings you need is

VPI = 0
VCI= 100

and of course your adsl username & pass in this format:

username.xadsl@xtra.co.nz

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 365498 9-Aug-2010 17:08
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Yes, our old Telecom one broke and we got a Belkin ADSL 2+ modem and that worked absolutly perfect, better than the D-Link one Telecom gave us, but we found out the one Telecom gave us was still under warrenty so we went and returned the Belkin one and used the replacement one Telecom gave us




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  Reply # 365514 9-Aug-2010 17:49
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Thanks for the responses, I will try again.

Does it matter that my modem doesn't have PPPoA only PPPoE?

Settings

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  Reply # 365518 9-Aug-2010 17:53
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Kiwi1971: Thanks for the responses, I will try again.

Does it matter that my modem doesn't have PPPoA only PPPoE?

Settings



Telecom only does PPPoA on their equipment.

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  Reply # 365529 9-Aug-2010 18:07
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Uhhhh.. that looks like a WAN port setting?

Does it infact even have a ADSL line port, and its not just a wan/wireless router?

Failing that.. DHCP. Unless you are conned and paying the $15 a month extra.

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  Reply # 365534 9-Aug-2010 18:16
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I'm running a Dynalink RTA1025W here, no issues at all.

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  Reply # 365542 9-Aug-2010 18:26
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Yeah.. as above ^^ :)

To clarify, I joined Xtra back in the 128K adsl jetstart days. Back then, they never supplied equipment unless you were leasing it for a business connection (M1122,MW1122)

I started with a ADSL PCI card!

You can stick on whatever you like, even re-flash old telecom Dlinks to the normal firmware to open up some advanced features.

The settings for NZ are global for ISPs (as far as I'm aware)

PPoA
VCI 0
VPI 100
G.DMT/ANSI.. something ADSL2+

And a MTU of 1500 (sometimes 1492?)

username.xadsl@xtra.co.nz (some were .bb@xtra.co.nz)
more often than not anythingyoulike.xadsl@xtra.co.nz as its done via port (but then you cant look up usage as easy)

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  Reply # 365544 9-Aug-2010 18:28
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Oblivian: Uhhhh.. that looks like a WAN port setting?

Does it infact even have a ADSL line port, and its not just a wan/wireless router?

Failing that.. DHCP. Unless you are conned and paying the $15 a month extra.

This. An ADSL modem will never have an option for connecting to Cable etc.

Belkin only makes two ADSL modems with Wireless N:

http://www.belkin.com/au/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=474683
http://www.belkin.com/au/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=365203

Personally i stay away from Belkin, ive only had problems with them. D-Link and Netgear too.
Netcomm, Dynalink and TP-Link have all been reliable for me. Linksys has been a real mix, i tried a WAG160N and it only synced at half of the ADSL2+ speed that my Dynalink modem synced at.

Oblivian: Yeah.. as above ^^ :)

To clarify, I joined Xtra back in the 128K adsl jetstart days. Back then, they never supplied equipment unless you were leasing it for a business connection (M1122,MW1122)

I started with a ADSL PCI card!

You can stick on whatever you like, even re-flash old telecom Dlinks to the normal firmware to open up some advanced features.

The settings for NZ are global for ISPs (as far as I'm aware)

PPoA
VCI 0
VPI 100
G.DMT/ANSI.. something ADSL2+

And a MTU of 1500 (sometimes 1492?)

username.xadsl@xtra.co.nz (some were .bb@xtra.co.nz)
more often than not anythingyoulike.xadsl@xtra.co.nz as its done via port (but then you cant look up usage as easy)

I too recently found a bill for Ihug + Jetstream back in late 2000. 128k. Unlimited national, 10gb international :D
Started with an Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem

To clarify, G.DMT = ADSL1.
MTU should be 1500 with PPPoA. 1492 only when using PPPoE

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  Reply # 365564 9-Aug-2010 18:51
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Personally i stay away from Belkin, ive only had problems with them. D-Link and Netgear too.
Netcomm, Dynalink and TP-Link have all been reliable for me. Linksys has been a real mix, i tried a WAG160N and it only synced at half of the ADSL2+ speed that my Dynalink modem synced at.


4 Dlink 604 replacements in a year.. I moved to a Dynalink. Broadcomm chipsets FTW.


I too recently found a bill for Ihug + Jetstream back in late 2000. 128k. Unlimited national, 10gb international :D
Started with an Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem


Still the odd supplier/Telstra connection throwing speedtouch in



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  Reply # 365612 9-Aug-2010 20:28
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Oblivian: Uhhhh.. that looks like a WAN port setting?

Does it infact even have a ADSL line port, and its not just a wan/wireless router?

Failing that.. DHCP. Unless you are conned and paying the $15 a month extra.


EmbarassedActually embarrassingly, it is just a 4 port wireless router after all. I've always thought it was a modem/Router.
I got it a couple of years ago but used it while I was with TelstraClear [cable] and never had to configure it, I thought I was just utilising the router side of it. One reason I thought it was a modem is that there are settings for user name and password etc. I assumed it was for logging into the ISP.

Ah well, I guess I will just daisy chain it.

Sorry but thanks for the replies. At least I know it can be done if I get a modem/router.

DS

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  Reply # 365630 9-Aug-2010 21:05
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I'm wondering how you were plugging this thing into the phone line.



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  Reply # 365651 9-Aug-2010 21:50
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eXDee: I'm wondering how you were plugging this thing into the phone line.


It has 4 grey ports and one yellow one, which because of my misconception, I was taking to be the phone in socket. 
The model is a Belkin F5D8233 v4 BTW.

Feeling quite the fool at the moment :)
 

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  Reply # 365700 9-Aug-2010 23:32
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Ah yes, thats understandable, but i was moreso getting at how you were fitting the phone plug into the network socket haha.

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  Reply # 365746 10-Aug-2010 08:05
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Feeling a fool is not too much to be concerned about. As for suitable modems, as you are connecting to a Telecom ISAM you should use a Broadcom based modem for best results, I recommend the TP-Link8840

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=361956

Cyril

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