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Topic # 7588 26-Apr-2006 09:01
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I just gave my daughter a Nokia 3105, which is locked, and can only call me or 111. She has no access to menus, nor for recieving or sending text messages.

With the Nokia, its this, or open access to most stuff.

I know a Sanyo 4920 can limit outgoing and/or incoming calls to the whole contact list, which is a good start, but I would like her to be able to send text messages to that same list (and no one else).

Any ideas?

Must be TNZ as primarily using Freedom...







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  Reply # 33956 26-Apr-2006 12:47
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The Nokia 3105 can have allowed numbers for calls but im not sure if it works with Texts.

Menu -> Settings -> Security Settings -> Phone Lock.

Turn this on then there's an option for "Allowed Numbers" .... have a play with that and test the Text function with it.

Aside from that theres no way it can be done on the network.. which is a pity because with the text bullying scene growing it should be something both Voda and TNZ should be looking into implemementing... which I guess they already have.... who knows.



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  Reply # 33958 26-Apr-2006 13:07
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SilentOne: The Nokia 3105 can have allowed numbers for calls but im not sure if it works with Texts.

Menu -> Settings -> Security Settings -> Phone Lock.

Turn this on then there's an option for "Allowed Numbers" .... have a play with that and test the Text function with it.

Aside from that theres no way it can be done on the network.. which is a pity because with the text bullying scene growing it should be something both Voda and TNZ should be looking into implemementing... which I guess they already have.... who knows.

This is qhat I have set up, it just locks the phone and allows one number. You cant access texting at all when this is active. There are some numbers you can specify as emergency numbers, but they are limited to five or six digits...







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  Reply # 33969 26-Apr-2006 14:00
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Oh, thought as much.. as in I thought you would have tried it at least.

Thing is theres not a lot else with that phone that you can do to set it up like you want it. I'm guessing your doing it to limit spending on the phone?

Going prepaid is one way as freedom is supposed to still work when theres $0 on the phone.... but that still elaves it open to a lot of other things (ie top ups)

The Sanyo 7400 (and I'm guessing 4920) allows selection to lock all except in the phone book.. which in turn locks new entries into the phonebook as one might think but still allows you to text & call the number.

Theres a solution tho it menas either parting with your 4920 or finding one cheap.. TradeMe...

Sanyos are the only ones that I've come across before that allow it (and have tested)

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Reply # 33970 26-Apr-2006 14:01
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Is it just me or are the posting dates out?

" 25-APR-2006 16:00"

Its the 26th Sealed


edit: Hmm seems to be Firefox & Firefox Preloader

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Reply # 33972 26-Apr-2006 14:15
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SilentOne: Is it just me or are the posting dates out? " 25-APR-2006 16:00"
Its the 26th Sealed
Seems to me you need to check your User Profile page and select the correct timezone there...




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  Reply # 33975 26-Apr-2006 14:25
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The nokias are very good with "blocking" and they are cheap and tough as (I'm using my Nokia 2118 as it's loud and robust)

under settings, security settings, restrict calls, it give piles of options. My phone has 0900, certain expensive international destinations and all VSP barred. (083 numbers, to call voicemail I dial #00)

There is an option for all calls as well and you can then go into the NAM area under service provider numbers (Tony will know this) and put your home number, Grans number and dads mobile in there.. While all other calls are barred, those imputted in there plus the emergency numbers under "emergency numbers" in that same NAM menu can be called.

Wap can be barred at switch level or you can get really nifty and go back into the NAM and remove the IP addresses.

SMS can be barred at swithc level, I'm unsure how to bar from the handset, with 025 you just shoved in a SMS service centre number into the NAM and it would stop working, SMS seems to be all or nothing really....


I was playing with this on my 021 the other night and it BLEW YET ANOTHER SIMCARD! Argh!



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  Reply # 33976 26-Apr-2006 15:00
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paradoxsm: under settings, security settings, restrict calls, it give piles of options.

3105 only has restrict certain outgoing numbers (and allow all others)

There is an option for all calls as well and you can then go into the NAM area under service provider numbers (Tony will know this) and put your home number, Grans number and dads mobile in there.. While all other calls are barred, those imputted in there plus the emergency numbers under "emergency numbers" in that same NAM menu can be called.

3105 only allows the service numbers to be five or six digits

Wap can be barred at switch level or you can get really nifty and go back into the NAM and remove the IP addresses.

Been there done that :-P

SMS can be barred at swithc level, I'm unsure how to bar from the handset, with 025 you just shoved in a SMS service centre number into the NAM and it would stop working, SMS seems to be all or nothing really....

I have barred outgoing sms at switch..









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  Reply # 33977 26-Apr-2006 15:04
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SilentOne: I'm guessing your doing it to limit spending on the phone?

Spending is not really the issue, my daughter is away a lot, and at 10 years old, I only want her to use the phone to contact family, or pre-approved-by-me friends. Another issue is that although she is responsible, some other family members she has regular contact with are not, so its easier to have it locked down, even though its on prepaid already.

The Sanyo 7400 (and I'm guessing 4920) allows selection to lock all except in the phone book.. which in turn locks new entries into the phonebook as one might think but still allows you to text & call the number.

So a 4920 locked down like that will let her text and call to and from everyone in the phonebook, recieve calls from anyone else, and recieve sms from anyone else? That would be perfect...

Theres a solution tho it menas either parting with your 4920 or finding one cheap.. TradeMe...

Anyone want to sell or swap me a 4920? Cosmetic condition is not a concern...









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  Reply # 33985 26-Apr-2006 15:24
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Just tried an older 8100, locked to phone book, but could still text to any number (even if not listed in contacts).
Guess thats going back in the junk pile...







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  Reply # 33988 26-Apr-2006 15:32
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My kids are on 027 prepaid for $10txt.
Another option that works well when the balance is low is the *shout service. www.telecom.co.nz/shout

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  Reply # 33989 26-Apr-2006 15:33
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DANG!

Sorry tonyhughes, just double checked it with 7400. Still allows you to text to everyone when phonebook only is listed, my applogies... i'll haev a further play



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  Reply # 33990 26-Apr-2006 15:36
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pland: My kids are on 027 prepaid for $10txt.
Another option that works well when the balance is low is the *shout service. www.telecom.co.nz/shout

Yeah but the issue here is that I dont want a ten year old (and my 8 year old son) to have full access to text anyone they please. They are too young to be let loose with it yet. Restricting outgoing text (which is my unsolved problem), means they can get used to text in a safe environment (only text people I know/trust/pre-approve)









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  Reply # 33991 26-Apr-2006 15:37
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SilentOne: DANG!

Sorry tonyhughes, just double checked it with 7400. Still allows you to text to everyone when phonebook only is listed, my applogies... i'll haev a further play

Thanks SilentOne.

Given todays technology, im surprised these features are not standard on most phones...







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Reply # 33999 26-Apr-2006 16:57
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Well my 4920 in almost perfect condition is sitting here gathering dust,.. I'd rather see it go to a good home or Trademe it is.

I think my panasonic VS2 on 021 locks sms per phonebook, it also allows assign ringtones for specific persons number for SMS and not just calls.  I haven't used this is some time though so Am unsure.

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  Reply # 34011 26-Apr-2006 18:50
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It is kinda surprising that its not built into a handset or able to be provisioned on a network yet the reason behind it is probably because both handset manufacturer and providers don't really WANT to cutomise it to this extent as it makes them money.. and in the few instances that people need these services ( vs majority of ppl who do nothing about it) means theres not a big enough gap in the market to warrant the extra expense...

my ramblings anyways

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