How to loose dsl, keep email@xtra.co.nz

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DonGould

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#77065 10-Feb-2011 14:36

Hi,

Got a few people who want to move away from Xtra for DSL service but don't want to loose their email account.

Can someone give me the low down?

I know that with some providers you just buy an email account and then set up a forward while others just give you 12 months email forwarding for free while you let all your peeps know what's going on.

How do ppl normally manage this with Xtra.

And for those wonder why the move, upload speed. BIR of 900kbit just isn't enough to do VC and VoIP properly and have other users on the nets at the same time. BIR of 10mbit down is fine, but up is becoming more important and I don't have any indication of when VDSL will happen so I have to just deal and move on.

TIA.

D

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#437768 10-Feb-2011 14:37

Change the plan to dial up for $10 per month and you can keep your email address - that is what I did when I moved to TelstraClear Cable.

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#437774 10-Feb-2011 14:43

kawaii: Change the plan to dial up for $10 per month and you can keep your email address - that is what I did when I moved to TelstraClear Cable.

Correct. That is the only way sadly.

DonGould

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#437776 10-Feb-2011 14:50

joeksemail: Correct. That is the only way sadly.

Thanks guys. That seems reasonable. $10 a month is much better than paying $60/month for a DSL link you don't need while it's also incentive for people to pick up a Gmail account or domain name so they're not tied to a provider.

I assume you can just pop the mail server from outside the network ok?

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#437777 10-Feb-2011 14:52

DonGould:
joeksemail: Correct. That is the only way sadly.

Thanks guys. That seems reasonable. $10 a month is much better than paying $60/month for a DSL link you don't need while it's also incentive for people to pick up a Gmail account or domain name so they're not tied to a provider.

I assume you can just pop the mail server from outside the network ok?

D

Yeah, all your paying for is your email address and keeping your login to the SMTP/POP server.

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#437778 10-Feb-2011 14:52

I have three xtra accounts (not that I use them, just holding the addresses since they are all my normal alias) and you can pay for just the emails... Or so it used to be. Something like $2.50 each.

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#437781 10-Feb-2011 14:59

freitasm: I have three xtra accounts (not that I use them, just holding the addresses since they are all my normal alias) and you can pay for just the emails... Or so it used to be. Something like $2.50 each.

People like you are the reason we have run out of IPV4 addresses.

Because you "hold" the ones you like because "you like the numbers."

HAHAHAHA

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#437783 10-Feb-2011 15:00

I don't have Telecom xtra accounts. I have xtra email accounts. I haven't been a Telecom landline customer since 1998.

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#437810 10-Feb-2011 16:01

freitasm: I have three xtra accounts (not that I use them, just holding the addresses since they are all my normal alias) and you can pay for just the emails... Or so it used to be. Something like $2.50 each.

Telecom don't offer this any more. If you already have it you can keep it but is not sold as an option any longer.

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#437814 10-Feb-2011 16:04

farcus: Telecom don't offer this any more. If you already have it you can keep it but is not sold as an option any longer.

So the only choice is a dialup acc then?

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#437817 10-Feb-2011 16:05

I remember when we talked to telecom a while ago when we were considering going to Orcon, we asked about our 2 email accounts we had and they said we could keep them for $10 something a month each and they would just send us a bill each month for them

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#437818 10-Feb-2011 16:06

DonGould:
farcus: Telecom don't offer this any more. If you already have it you can keep it but is not sold as an option any longer.

So the only choice is a dialup acc then?

Correct

NonprayingMantis

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#437830 10-Feb-2011 16:22

DonGould: Hi,

Got a few people who want to move away from Xtra for DSL service but don't want to loose their email account.

Can someone give me the low down?

I know that with some providers you just buy an email account and then set up a forward while others just give you 12 months email forwarding for free while you let all your peeps know what's going on.

How do ppl normally manage this with Xtra.

And for those wonder why the move, upload speed. BIR of 900kbit just isn't enough to do VC and VoIP properly and have other users on the nets at the same time. BIR of 10mbit down is fine, but up is becoming more important and I don't have any indication of when VDSL will happen so I have to just deal and move on.

TIA.

D

where are you going that will give you better upload speed?

DonGould

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#437841 10-Feb-2011 16:38

NonprayingMantis: where are you going that will give you better upload speed?

wireless solution on one site - 8mbit
fibre solution on another site - 10, 30 or 100mbit options.

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#437844 10-Feb-2011 16:42

You should definitely ween them off ISP email addresses.

1: Pay Telecom $10 / month to keep the email account
2: Register a new domain name for them, ~$20 /year now
3: Setup google apps for domains standard for the domain
4: Setup xyz@yourdomain.co.nz and configure it to pull email from the xtra accounts
5: Setup client to connect to the new xyz@yourdomain.co.nz account and use this as their primary account
6: Get client to tell everyone to use this account from now on, change over any subscriptions they have going etc.
7: Sometime later when no email is coming through the xtra address anymore stop paying Telecom, close the account.

Rejoice, with your own domain you are now not tied to a specific ISP and you can also change email provider from gmail to MS or whoever as you like without having to change your address.

If you can't be bothered with registering a domain etc steps 4-7ish still apply with a straight gmail, hotmail or yahoo email account.

DonGould

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#437862 10-Feb-2011 17:08

ta, given me an idea actually... we can set up our hosting to bounce messages back at the xtra mail automatically as well I think. Shouldn't be to hard to do.

and I can filter the lists and give the user a conslidated list of things they can't just bounce back at.

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