TG585 v8, N capable?

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#80795 4-Apr-2011 22:25

Hi all,

The settings within the router suggest that it is capable of N networking - nevertheless it is running at 65 Mbps max, i.e. G, not N.

Do I have to fiddle around with a setting that isn't obvious?

Also, man this router has terrible terrible range. It goes from 0 dB to -40 dB within 4 meters, and within 15 meters is barely visible (albeit upstairs, so with a floor in the way).

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J

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#455335 4-Apr-2011 22:36

I am interested in the replies to this thread, but I will offer my input.

It is an N router, but not full N. You can buy other non full N routers, typically called N150. Full N is N300.

I am unsure why it is a 65mbit connect rate, but I did find the wifi transfer rate doubled at home, i.e file copying speed, compared to a G router.

The upstairs issue. If the wifi signal is passing through a stairwell, it wont see it like a wall. A wall may be 120mm thick ( 100mm 4 x 2 framing and 2 x 9.5mm gib) but a stairwell will be like a VERY think wall . The distance beween the walls will be like one big wall, so avoid a stairwell being in the way.

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#455353 4-Apr-2011 23:09

The max for g is 54mbps so if you are getting more than that then it must be n.

Dont forget you need wireless n in your laptop/whatever client as well not just the router.

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#455374 5-Apr-2011 01:22

Heh - well I was expecting the usual 400-600 range for the N router. This is the router itself stating 65 under 'home network' settings, not connected devices btw. Nevertheless, all devices connected are N capable.

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#455381 5-Apr-2011 06:24

For the Thomcon v8 65mbit is the connect rate, my laptop is full N and this is what I got when I tried 2 of them.

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#455402 5-Apr-2011 09:05

Its related to the number of transmitters and receivers (usually notable by the number of antennas) as well as the channel width. This one runs at 20mhz and i don't believe has the option to change it.
1T1R 20mhz = ~54-65mbit
1T1R 40mhz = ~135-150mbit
2T2R 20mhz = ~135-150mbit
2T2R 40mhz = ~270-300mbit

This is a cheap router they are giving away for free, i'd never expect anything decent from it.
Buy a decent unit, eg the Netcomm NB6Plus4WN which is 2T2R with 40mhz support.

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#455452 5-Apr-2011 11:26

Cool.

I was thinking about a D-LINK Xtreme N Gigabit Router. It's white one with 3 antennas; might help with our range problems.

I've never had any problems with D-link before, have with the likes of Belkin though.

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#455635 5-Apr-2011 19:46

while we are discussing about the tg585, may someone guide me how to set it to behave just as a modem only?

my intention is to hook a more worthy wireless router to it.

thanks.

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#455636 5-Apr-2011 19:57

jamesmcd: Cool.

I was thinking about a D-LINK Xtreme N Gigabit Router. It's white one with 3 antennas; might help with our range problems.

I've never had any problems with D-link before, have with the likes of Belkin though.

Get an Asus RT-N16 instead, its cheaper and better. Load it with DD-WRT (this isn't hard at all) and you have heaps of potential. I haven't even changed much and already have hard drives and printers shared, monthly bandwidth graphs, VPN support etc.

mylsnc: while we are discussing about the tg585, may someone guide me how to set it to behave just as a modem only?my intention is to hook a more worthy wireless router to it.thanks.

A mate has used PPTP, since half bridge doesnt seem to work on these thomsons.

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#455792 6-Apr-2011 08:48

I notice that neither DSE nor Harvey Norman sell the Asus :(

Edit: And I see that it doesn't have a modem, nor does the D-link. I prefer the combination.

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#455880 6-Apr-2011 12:23

These two are the current best value/performance/reliability for regular home users who want an all in one solution that don't have to tinker with much:

NetComm NB6Plus4Wn
TP-Link TD-W8960N

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#456214 7-Apr-2011 08:18

Ragnor: These two are the current best value/performance/reliability for regular home users who want an all in one solution that don't have to tinker with much:

NetComm NB6Plus4Wn
TP-Link TD-W8960N

+1 on the TD-W8960N. I have had it for about 6 weeks now, and it is rock solid. Good ADSL2+ throughput performance and sync up rates too.

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#456231 7-Apr-2011 09:04

Looks pretty good (the TD-W8960N). Any idea where I can buy one of these? More importantly though, what can you say about its wireless range? Will it comfortably go upstairs? We've got a 3 level house, with the router ideally in the middle. It's not actually far to the upstairs at all, which is why I'm so disappointed at the modem from Telecom. Our old D-Link has trouble getting up there too. It's literally directly upwards from the router, about 6-8 meters, and modern devices struggle to see it and often can't join.

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#456237 7-Apr-2011 09:13

The Netgear DGND3300 looks pretty good too, but bloody expensive!

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#456262 7-Apr-2011 10:12

jamesmcd: Looks pretty good (the TD-W8960N). Any idea where I can buy one of these?

$99 with free shipping:
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=12370

I prefer the Netcomm NB6Plus4WN though.

Also for the RT-N16 yes it doesn't have a modem, but picking up a dirt cheap RTA1320E off trademe and half bridging it totally pays off for what the router itself has the capability to do. A mate replaced the stock firmware with DD-WRT and just compiled the XFCE GUI for it, just because he can (spec on this is 480mhz cpu, 128mb ram, 32mb flash, which is crazy for a router)

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#456326 7-Apr-2011 11:53

eXDee:
jamesmcd: Looks pretty good (the TD-W8960N). Any idea where I can buy one of these?

$99 with free shipping:
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=12370

That was where I got mine!

jamesmcd: More importantly though, what can you say about its wireless range? Will it comfortably go upstairs? We've got a 3 level house, with the router ideally in the middle. It's not actually far to the upstairs at all, which is why I'm so disappointed at the modem from Telecom. Our old D-Link has trouble getting up there too. It's literally directly upwards from the router, about 6-8 meters, and modern devices struggle to see it and often can't join.

I have my TD-W8960N upstairs on the 2nd storey, and I can access it on my laptops and HTPC downstairs just fine, all via wireless. Some of my laptops are connecting via 802.11N, some 802.11G, and my HTPC has a 802.11G USB wifi adapter - all just work without any problems. Speeds are good too.

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