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Topic # 8347 22-Jun-2006 19:36
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Nokia decided to not go ahead on the CDMA partnership with Sanyo - and to focus on the North American market:

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  Reply # 39373 22-Jun-2006 20:14
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Probably due to the ongoing intellectual property battles with Qualcomm. Sanyo use Qualcomm chips and for EVDO you have no other choice.




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  Reply # 39385 22-Jun-2006 21:17
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edited as my humour may have been lost on some...


 
 
 
 


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Reply # 39394 22-Jun-2006 22:36
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I guess that means we wont be seeing any Nokia EVDO phones then

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Reply # 39400 22-Jun-2006 23:54
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Oh drat,,, apparently Nokia don't use the Qualcomm MSM series chipset * but have "hacked out" their own variant,

Qualcomm apprently were not impressed and are proceeding legal action. I saw a good story on this some time back and of course cannot recall where.

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  Reply # 39405 23-Jun-2006 06:47
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paradoxsm: Oh drat,,, apparently Nokia don't use the Qualcomm MSM series chipset * but have "hacked out" their own variant,

Qualcomm apprently were not impressed and are proceeding legal action. I saw a good story on this some time back and of course cannot recall where.


There have been quite a few articles on the topic so a Google search will give a lot of info. The debate goes back a long way however, and I remember an issue that some overseas TDMA providers had moving to CDMA with older Nokia TDMA phones that were no longer going to work because the control channel or something similair had been hard coded by Nokia when infact the specs said it shouldn't be.

Nokia are far from the goodies that they try to make out, look at the whole PoC issue with GSM and in a lot of ways they are trying to use their dominance in the marketplace to get their own way.



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  Reply # 39517 24-Jun-2006 14:38
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bradstewart: I guess that means we wont be seeing any Nokia EVDO phones then


No more Nokia CDMA phones!!!

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  Reply # 39531 24-Jun-2006 16:35

Felix: agreed... also lots of cultural clashes I hear... the engineers just wouldn't communicate... pity really, Nokia could have moved into the 21st century...

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They moved. And there is a bigger reason why Nokia is moving out from the CDMA business, not the pity battle with Qualcomm.
Let's see how the cellular market will look like after 5-10 years: GSM, WCDMA, CDMA, etc.




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  Reply # 39631 26-Jun-2006 10:51
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edited as my humour may have been lost on some...


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  Reply # 39652 26-Jun-2006 14:02
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Felix:

moved where... personally I hate Nokia's... cheap phones made in sweatshops in china... overpriced and non functional... texting is the only thing they do well...

I'd be interested to know what the numbers are for repairs for phones at MFR / Telegisitcs. Would say Nokia were number one if not prettty high up the list...



They might be high from a numbers point of view, but in terms of a percentage of units sold you'd be surprised.

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  Reply # 39680 26-Jun-2006 17:27

Felix:

moved where... personally I hate Nokia's... cheap phones made in sweatshops in china... overpriced and non functional... texting is the only thing they do well...

I'd be interested to know what the numbers are for repairs for phones at MFR / Telegisitcs. Would say Nokia were number one if not prettty high up the list...



Felix, what mobile phones have you ever had before? Could you list them here? I was just wondering....




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  Reply # 39694 26-Jun-2006 18:10
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mmm... let me see... (this could be OT, but here we go)... this is by now means complete... the days of me using voda on the regular are long gone... and 025 was a very longtime ago (keep in mind that I have abused the brain cells for a good 20 years now ;-)

Voda

Sharp GX10
Sharp GX20
Motorola V1050
Nokia 7210
Nokia 6610
Nokia 6210
Nokia 6710
Nokia 7260
Nokia 3310
Sony Ericsson Z600
Motorola V60G
Motorola A1000

TDMA (025)
Nokia 3320
Nokia 5120i
Nokia 5120
Nokia 6220
Ericsson R280LX
Some from Ben Rubles like that dollar Alcatel... can't remeber all of them...

CDMA
Gtran GCP-3000 (data card)
Gtran GCP-4020
Hyundai 610e
Hyundai 310e
Hyundai 310e Blue
Hyundai TX-21B
Hyundai TX-30B
Hyundai TX-95C
Pantech TX-115C
Pantech TX-130C
Pantech TX-215C
Kyocera 3035
Kyocera 2135
Kyocera 6035
Kyocera 2235
Kyocera 7135
Kyocera 3245
Kyocera SE47
Kyocera KE 414
Kyocera KE 414C
Kyocera KE424C
Kyocera KE434C
LG NX-225
Sierra Wireless AirCard580 (data card)
Nokia 6385
Nokia 2280
Nokia 3585
Nokia 3586
Nokia 6585
Nokia 3105
Nokia 6225
Nokia 3205
Nokia 6015
Nokia 3125
Nokia 2112
Nokia 6255
Nokia 2118
Nokia 6235
Nokia 2125
Nokia 3155
Nokia 6265
Nokia 6155
Nokia 2355
Samsung SCH-M105 (mp3 phone)
Samsung SCH-N105
Samsung SCH-N171
Samsung SCH-A212
Samsung SCH-N181
Samsung SCH-A591
Samsung SCH-N361
Samsung SCH-X609
Samsung SCH-N391
Samsung SCH-A680
Samsung SCH-N415
Samsung SCH-A920
Samsung SCH-A900
Sanyo 8100
Sanyo 4920
Sanyo 7400
Sanyo 8200
Sanyo 5600
Sanyo 2300
Sanyo 8300
Sanyo 9000
Sanyo 7500
Sanyo 3100
Sony Ericsson 1228c
Sony Ericsson T60c/61c
Sony Ericsson T206c

I haven't listed phones I've had that never got released / PTC'd)

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Reply # 39701 26-Jun-2006 19:02
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I'm not quite as experienced as Felix, but I've had enough Nokia handsets to be qualified to form an opinion.

3310 : Back in its day, it had state of the art features and looked cool enough to turn heads. Loved it.
6210 : Basically a 3310 in a more professional uniform. Solid, reliable and functional.
3510 : Didn't have quite the same wow factor as the 3310, but still very pleasing to use. I quite liked the radical styling of the keypad.
7650 : Excellent functionality, but expensive, bulky and had a tendancy to drop calls. Wasn't so impressed with this one.
2280 : Good as a basic handset, but somehow felt a bit second rate compared to its GSM cousins. It had the same reliability and ease of use that I had come to expect, but the keypad was awkward, the shape of the housing seemed unrefined and the analogue aerial was unsightly.
6630 (current) : My only complaints with this one are the poor sound quality and fiddly controls with respect to the music playing functionality. Otherwise, this is a good performer with a nice user interface, plenty of useful applications with the ability to add more, and powerful imaging tools.

So, despite a few grizzles here and there, my experience with Nokia handsets has been pretty good.

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Reply # 39706 26-Jun-2006 19:29
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Felix you are such a show off! You still using that Hyundai 310e? Do you want to sell it?




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  Reply # 39720 26-Jun-2006 20:34
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ha ha jama, so you can put it in your museum?? I know you might not have used the range of more recent phones on a regular basis as me... but I also know you've got the old school down... don't you have one of those suit case phones like in Lethal Weapon 2???

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Felix: ha ha jama, so you can put it in your museum?? I know you might not have used the range of more recent phones on a regular basis as me... but I also know you've got the old school down... don't you have one of those suit case phones like in Lethal Weapon 2???


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