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Topic # 8563 11-Jul-2006 08:28

Buy a song for your mobile and you can now download another copy to your PC for no extra charge.

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Reply # 40787 11-Jul-2006 09:39

Good one! That sounds good... It's like Verizon's VCAST service, it's great to have a license for the same file on your mobile and PC.

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Reply # 40791 11-Jul-2006 10:15

Yeah, it's good, but...

For this service, customers will still pay the current price of $3.50 per individual song.

Which is ouchie pricing.

What kind of bit rate are the WMA files?

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Reply # 40792 11-Jul-2006 10:22

Agree on the pricing but then again 2 for one makes it $1.75 p/track which I suppose is better than what it was at $3.50 p/track just for a phone.

Not sure on the bitrate - I will find out.

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Reply # 40794 11-Jul-2006 10:38

From the Properties of a file downloaded to a PC:

Audio Codec: Windows Media Audio 9, 128 kbps, 44 kHz, stereo 2-pass CBR

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Reply # 40795 11-Jul-2006 10:45

wallross: From the Properties of a file downloaded to a PC:

Audio Codec: Windows Media Audio 9, 128 kbps, 44 kHz, stereo 2-pass CBR

Think I'd rather buy CDs then.

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Reply # 40796 11-Jul-2006 10:47

Quality can go up... But in terms of ease of use, there's no way to beat this. Buy it from your mobile phone, use on your PC at home.

How many times I've seen a CD on a TV ad and thought "I should buy this", but really, couldn't be bothered going out to a CD store just for this one?

Impulse buying is the key in this market.

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Reply # 40797 11-Jul-2006 10:54

Why not just get cheaper (and usually higher bitrate) recordings off the 'Net instead? Even Digirama costs less as Jama points out for the same format restricted 128kbit/s songs.

Sure, people will spend more money on impulse buying, but that doesn't make Telecom's Music Store a great idea. This is just me wearing the consumer advocate hat of course.

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Reply # 40799 11-Jul-2006 11:00

Because you can't get to Digirama from your mobile phone? And because there are more mobile phones connected to the Internet than actual computers?

Huge, bigger market.

Also, all previously purchased tracks are available to PC owners.

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Reply # 40801 11-Jul-2006 11:05

Still no native iPod support... I really don't agree with this whole MS 'Play for Sure'. I agree with Juha I will still buy a CD but then I don't play music on my phone even though it supports it. I prefer to carry my iPod.

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Reply # 40803 11-Jul-2006 11:14

Well, I can only go "me too" and agree with Jama... have to think of the value proposition for customers here. Don't quite see why Telecom can't bump up the bit rates - that'd give it a nice advantage over Vodafone, and also make it look good in marketing terms. I know you can convert WMA files to MP3s, but it'd be nice for people to play the Telecom Music Store songs on their Ipods, which in the vast majority of cases have heaps better sound than mobile phones.

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Reply # 40804 11-Jul-2006 11:50

It was interesting to see the latest DSE mailer which had a big "don't steal music" or words to that effect printed next to the ipods. It's just a shame that there is no legitimate way if you're NZ resident to have music on your ipod! Purchasing something legally then burning it to CD and ripping the mp3 or aac still crys foul of our format shifting laws.

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Reply # 40805 11-Jul-2006 12:01

And that is the irony for the 10's of thousands of NZ iPod users.

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Reply # 40818 11-Jul-2006 17:22

well I might be a bit biased on this, since I did a lot of work (all the way through til 7 am this morning) to launch this product... but I'd say it's better than anything else out there...

the ability to d/l a song on your mobile, then jump on the web, get the same tune, burn it to cd, put it on personal media players is pretty cool..

as for the "play for sure" / drm and pricing thing... juha / jama you have never tried to get access to a publishers catalogue have you? it's a lot more tricky than you obviously think... that's why in some circles the "Big 4" (soon to be 3) record labels, and Pfizer are described as a cartel...

and if you want itunes in nz, write to RIANZ, the record labels, and APRA... they're the ones stopping it from happening... (personally I can't stand ipods)

as for price points and quality... to each his own... I've bought 3 pre-recorded cd's in 4 years, and have no problem with the tens of thousands of tunes I have...

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Reply # 40828 11-Jul-2006 19:21

sbiddle: It was interesting to see the latest DSE mailer which had a big "don't steal music" or words to that effect printed next to the ipods. It's just a shame that there is no legitimate way if you're NZ resident to have music on your ipod! Purchasing something legally then burning it to CD and ripping the mp3 or aac still crys foul of our format shifting laws.

That's probably why they say "don't steal music" as opposed to "don't violate copyright laws". The term "steal" implies taking something without paying for it, but that doesn't apply to the act of ripping a CD because you paid for the CD!

Whilst I flatly refuse to purchase DRM crippled music, I concede that Telecom deserves full credit for adding value to their music download service within the limitations of what the record industry will allow. I'm sure that this service will appeal to a certain segment of the market, although I can't help wondering who came up with the name "Telecom Music Store". Surely they could have thought of something more marketable than that!

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Reply # 40829 11-Jul-2006 19:42

Felix: you (and Telecom) have my full sympathies when it comes to dealing with the music/film studios....

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