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#156074 18-Nov-2014 15:27
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I keep running into issues with Geekzone that I don’t understand. My knowledge of anything having to do with networking is pretty limited. I have posted about this before and this post is not a complaint or plea for help, just an attempt to understand better what is going on.

 

 

My preferred browser is Opera 12. Lately I have had problems sometimes logging into Geekzone that have something to do with security certificates. I downloaded K-Meleon as an alternate browser just to use with Geekzone. This seems to solve the problem.

 

 

Today Opera insisted that Geekzone did not exist at all, even though I was only using HTTP. This is new. I have learned a few things recently so I wondered if the issue could be my DNS server. I tried nslookup to obtain the Geekzone IP address and then tried to use that, but I got a message from Cloudflare that direct access to the site isn’t allowed. So then I tried K-Meleon again and it worked fine. So I tried Opera again and it still insisted that Geekzone didn’t exist. So I carried on with K-Meleon for awhile and then tried Opera once more and everything worked fine and it has ever since. I am using Opera now.

 

 

So what is actually happening here? I know my Opera is hopelessly outdated but I have tried modern browsers and I just don’t like any of them. Apart from that, I would like to better understand the nature of the issues I am having with Geekzone, especially since I don’t seem to have them with any other site. I suspect this has something to do with Cloudflare but I don’t really understand it. Can anyone explain to me what all this means?

 

 





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  #1178245 19-Nov-2014 07:51
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That was really hard to read, do you think you could use paragraphs next time?

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  #1178249 19-Nov-2014 07:56
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Wall of text

 
 
 
 


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  #1178254 19-Nov-2014 08:24
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It's probably just that Opera 12 is too old, sorry. The Presto engine and the way it handles SSL/TLS within those builds has been shown to be problematic, especially for sites that are backed by Cloudflare SSL or similarly implemented services. Opera 15 and above was a complete rewrite, and ditched the old engine entirely in favour of Blink.

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  #1178257 19-Nov-2014 08:26
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Difficult to say given the lack of information and the wall of text. Try Chrome. If that doesn't work report back. 

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  #1178262 19-Nov-2014 08:33
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Initially I thought it might be something to do with lack of SNI support in Opera which is probably required for Geekzone HTTPS pages going through Cloudflare.
No, just read and Opera 8+ supports it apparently.

Perhaps it hadn't been negotiating TLS versions correctly, perhaps Opera was caching something in regards to DNS which it shouldn't have been 

Please - upgrade to Firefox or something and make life easier for yourself :)

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  #1178263 19-Nov-2014 08:33
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Use Firebug for Firefox, or Ctrl + Shift + J on Chrome,  or equivalent tool and see what's actually going on when you try load up the page

my guess would be flaky DNS 



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  #1178294 19-Nov-2014 09:19
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I had a problem with both Metservice and Geekzone a while ago.

It ended up that I was still running a Peer Blocking service that had HTTP block turned on.
Unclicked this and all was fine

 
 
 
 


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  #1178321 19-Nov-2014 09:39
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johnr: Wall of text


Embarrased apologies for the wall of text. Sometimes I cut and paste and I forget that my carriage returns don't transfer.




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  #1178328 19-Nov-2014 09:44
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Thanks for the responses. I have tried other browsers, including Firefox and (briefly) Opera 16 and I just don't like the way they 'feel'. I am still looking. I'm not asking for a solution here, though. I just want to understand what is going on. Your responses have given me some insight I didn't have before and that is what I was hoping for.




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