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Topic # 17886 16-Dec-2007 21:40
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What happened to the thread?  It was left to run for a couple of days, and now it's gone?

What did I miss (please censor your responses...)? I'm curious and want to be able to read what happened! :)




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  Reply # 100310 16-Dec-2007 21:43
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Hi, the thread was deleted because it was a discussion about something illegal (i.e. the deliberate exploitation of a telecommunications network to recieve service without payment).

It was left to run for a while, as it wasnt the worst thread in the world, but it soon became apparent that no good would come of it, and a staff member locked the discussion, before another staff member finally deleted it.

We don't want the discussion reignited.

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  Reply # 100316 16-Dec-2007 21:51
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Hah, I thought it was that bug.  Cool, thanks.

Did Vodafone request it be dropped, or was it a Geekzone choice?

Being a software guy in the specific field of prepaid cell phone charging (data, messaging and call), what are the parameters of the discussion we are allowed to have?  I'd love to discuss these sorts of faults.  That's how I learn to find them when I inevitably come across them during the day! :)




 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 100322 16-Dec-2007 22:04
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jpollock: Hah, I thought it was that bug. Cool, thanks.

Did Vodafone request it be dropped, or was it a Geekzone choice?

Being a software guy in the specific field of prepaid cell phone charging (data, messaging and call), what are the parameters of the discussion we are allowed to have? I'd love to discuss these sorts of faults. That's how I learn to find them when I inevitably come across them during the day! :)

It was an internal decision for the thread to be removed, Vodafone did not have any input/discussion regarding it.

Geekzone members are allowed to have reasonable discussions about most tech related stuff - for instance, we let that thread run for a long time, and probably would have let it stay, had the OP not simply been trying to determine if they were able to steal bandwidth without being caught.

If the thread had been left as a technical conversation, it probably would have stayed.

Its all about intent really.

Long-standing members will generally be given more rope than newbies.







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Reply # 100325 16-Dec-2007 22:11
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tonyhughes: It was an internal decision for the thread to be removed, Vodafone did not have any input/discussion regarding it.

Geekzone members are allowed to have reasonable discussions about most tech related stuff - for instance, we let that thread run for a long time, and probably would have let it stay, had the OP not simply been trying to determine if they were able to steal bandwidth without being caught.


I was in Auckland during the weekend attending the Bar Camp and a Vodafone employee joked about the discussion. In no moment though anyone from Vodafone asked to have that discussion removed.

Tony locked the discussion and I decided to delete it. The reasons Tony have already explained, but just to confirm - the OP started the discussion asking for free GRPS and warez. His last post he wrote something about wanting to use data without paying and how he could get anything from warez.

At that point I decided the discussion wasn't really anytning we want to have on Geekzone and deleted it.

As Tony says, older members, people who participated in the forums before have a little bit more "space" to discuss things.






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  Reply # 100380 17-Dec-2007 10:07
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Cool.  I wasn't concerned about censorship or anything, more about how fraud related tech discussions would be handled in the future.  I guess it's along the lines of  "If you don't provide instructions on how to do it, you'll be allowed"?

I do agree about the OP, that was tacky.

Did you guys keep a copy of it to forward to Vodafone's tech team?  Perhaps they need to know that the "cat's out of the bag"?

Mostly, I am insanely curious.




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  Reply # 100383 17-Dec-2007 10:25
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jpollock: Did you guys keep a copy of it to forward to Vodafone's tech team?  Perhaps they need to know that the "cat's out of the bag"?


Nothing on the database is ever "deleted" but "hidden". We need traceability in case of a lawsuit or something, right?

Anyway, I was contacted by Vodafone this morning asking about what happened to that thread - they also noticed it was gone. Mainly because they are well aware of the problem for months, but still need to convince people to "fix" it. So they were following the discussion.





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