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#196641 7-Jun-2016 18:04

A certain naughty word, relating to a part of a womans anatomy is being spotted by the geek zone filters, even if it is part of another word.

I know there aren't many words containing that word but Sc*nthorpe, UK will be upset we cant reference them :)

I learned this because I continually mistype account. with the o between the two c's. I also mis-spell THe and nad, and other similar words like my name, Sahne.

Just FYI. i didn't know the filters looked internally in words and have now learnt that word appears nowhere in other words except Sc*nthorpe.

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#1567338 7-Jun-2016 18:59

You cant discuss a certain variety of mushroom either because of the limited filter.

Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

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#1567445 7-Jun-2016 20:13

A football blog I read dubbed the football team of S(c)unthorp "Firewall FC" for this very reason.

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#1567467 7-Jun-2016 20:54

Rude words spelled out phonetically? Reminds me of that bloodhound gang song with the banana car in the video ;)

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#1567476 7-Jun-2016 21:17

People need to just grow up and quit being afraid of words.

I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney

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#1567527 7-Jun-2016 22:15

Unfortunatly if some words are on a site it can get it blocked by firewalls at some businesses who have them set to pre-school levels of filtering.

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#1567532 7-Jun-2016 22:22

Rikkitic:
People need to just grow up and quit being afraid of words.

There are plenty of acceptable alternatives to use including the correct terms. People who use the childish swearing are the ones who need to do the growing .

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#1567572 8-Jun-2016 00:12

MikeB4:
Rikkitic:

People need to just grow up and quit being afraid of words.

There are plenty of acceptable alternatives to use including the correct terms. People who use the childish swearing are the ones who need to do the growing .

When you want to say something 'naughty' you are unlikely to be referring to anatomy so the correct terms are those that the author wants to use. People who think it is a problem to speak in a certain manner and try to police it are generally utter wretches both in cyberspace and meatspace. Moderating language for the sake of the words is futile given much more vile things can be written that no software will ever prevent.

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#1567622 8-Jun-2016 07:48

Swear words etc do not really offend me. Personally I like the effect of the language filter.

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#1567659 8-Jun-2016 08:23

One sports site I frequent has a filter that strips any blocked words from users' posts, wherever it may find them, but presents any surrounding text unaltered, meaning that famous North Lincolnshire town gets rendered as Shorpe, and supporters are constantly asking when we're going to win another le.

Personally I'm not offended by language (although I am sometimes offended by people who butcher it) but feel there are enough expressive words and phrases in the English language that resorting to swearing "for effect" seems like a cop out.

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#1567711 8-Jun-2016 09:39

I am pretty good with words so have no need to resort to prohibited ones in order to adequately express myself, though there are times when four letters certainly seem to fit a phrase best. What I object to is the illogic and hypocrisy of using substitutes like f*** and s*** when everyone who sees them immediately knows exactly what they are and sub-vocalises the actual words. So what is achieved by the coy replacement? It is stupid and pointless. Either use the word or don't, but don't resort to this kind of craven squeamishness. I value Geekzone and the generally high level of discourse here so I am prepared to put up with the censorship, but I don't agree with it.

Is this protecting family values? Every six year-old I have ever met knows all of these words perfectly well and knows how to use them, even if they may not understand exactly what they mean. Is it preserving standards? We have some very alert moderators with very big banhammers. I don't see how blotting out some perfectly harmless letter combinations adds value to the Geekzone experience, but there you are. I think anyone who finds these words so upsetting that their day gets ruined by seeing them should install a simple filter on their own computers and quit trying to filter the whole world for everyone else. Even better, just accept that they are words, like all the other words that so enrich our existence and get on with life. I am far more shocked by some of the things I see on prime time television than any naughty word I have ever heard in any language. So grow up, get over it, and focus your censoring energies on some things that really matter, like Syrian fathers weeping over the bodies of their dead children, or the mutilated corpses of ISIS victims. Work on that and all the other genuine atrocities that afflict our world every day and then we can talk about dirty words.

I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney

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#1567760 8-Jun-2016 10:57

I take Billy Connolys <my bad speeling> approach.

When asked about his prolific use of fat duck or fire truck in his language, he said something like.

It's needed at times

For example, telling someone to go away, really has very little effect but telling them to fat duck off gets the message across in no uncertain terms. He believes it has it's place.

for me - I struggle with language personally. I didn't swear until I was about 17 then went and worked in a butchery and 7 months later was shocked to discover every second faffing word coming out of my faffing mouth was faff. Unfortunately it is a trait I have now struggled with for 30 something years. I certainly dont want my kids sounding like that as I know it lowers my respect for those on the street I hear faffing off continuously - normally for street cred, rather than because they know what they are doing with the words.

In the butchery faff was a part of the patois (I hope I'm using that word correctly) in the same way Malaysians finish sentences with Lah, Kiwis and Canadians use Eh and Cantonese drawl an aaaaaarrrr sound if they from Hong Kong (try listening to their soaps, you will discover what I mean).

Unfortunately faff is not really acceptable in the WASP Anglican Church I go to. They are lovely, caring, genuine people, some of whom have worked in some of the scummiest places in the world for many years and are not shocked by language, but as an example to young people, other believers and those outside the church it is not acceptable because it puts up barriers to relationships.

I guess what I am saying is the words themselves are not the issue, they are just sounds, but the barriers to relationships and the offence they cause is an excellent reason to veer on the side of caution. Filters are designed to avoid offence and try to cater for others who may be offended, even if we aren't.

Easier said than done.

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#1567764 8-Jun-2016 11:00

nunz: In the butchery faff was a part of the patois (I hope I'm using that word correctly) in the same way Malaysians finish sentences with Lah, Kiwis and Canadians use Eh and Cantonese drawl an aaaaaarrrr sound if they from Hong Kong (try listening to their soaps, you will discover what I mean).

Better still, it could be part of the metier.

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#1568422 9-Jun-2016 09:12

Lias:

You cant discuss a certain variety of mushroom either because of the limited filter.

Shiitake?

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#1568558 9-Jun-2016 11:16

freitasm:

nunz: In the butchery faff was a part of the patois (I hope I'm using that word correctly) in the same way Malaysians finish sentences with Lah, Kiwis and Canadians use Eh and Cantonese drawl an aaaaaarrrr sound if they from Hong Kong (try listening to their soaps, you will discover what I mean).

Better still, it could be part of the metier.

Oooh la la - I have been schooled and learned a new word :)

Not sure either metier or patois is quite the right word - more like a rhythm of speaking,

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#1568560 9-Jun-2016 11:18

Fred99:

Lias:

You cant discuss a certain variety of mushroom either because of the limited filter.

Shiitake?

Is that a fungus grown by a particular sect of Muslim? One whom you really don't want to mis-spell by missing an 'I' otherwise you might find a jihadic content filter banning you?

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