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#249342 6-May-2019 20:18

As of the past two weeks or so, it's been necessary to have google.com enabled in NoScript in order to use Geekzone. Without this, you can't log on or post. Since Google are slightly worse than the NSA in terms of data collection, I always keep them blocked by default. Would it be possible to fix this so unblocking Google isn't necessary to use the site?

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#2231944 6-May-2019 20:20

Probably because of this:

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=4&topicid=237743

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#2231949 6-May-2019 20:27

yep...

i get proxy issues sometimes to google.com.

This issue stops me from posting on gz some days.

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#2231950 6-May-2019 20:28

We are measuring robot/automated activities around the site with reCAPTCHA. About 12% - 15% of the traffic seems to be non-human. Once we have a few weeks of data I will decide how we will manage this - either by blocking suspicious activity or requiring a second authentication (email, 2FA TOTP code) when a suspicious login/post happens.

Sorry, this will continue for a little while before I decide on this.

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#2231959 6-May-2019 20:44

Any chance of maybe whitelisting NZ IP blocks or something? Assuming the problem traffic is coming from non-NZ sources that is...

Hmm, and it goes beyond just logging in, for example I can't post this unless I have Google enabled.

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#2231978 6-May-2019 21:15

neb: Any chance of maybe whitelisting NZ IP blocks or something? Assuming the problem traffic is coming from non-NZ sources that is... Hmm, and it goes beyond just logging in, for example I can't post this unless I have Google enabled.

i can +1, read posts and reply to DM's. when it comes to posting though.... NOPE.

all because it can't load the silly google pixel thingy.. drives me a tad nutty.

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i guess the problem does exist...

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#2232018 6-May-2019 21:57

Please enable scripts on Geekzone, as well as Google.

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#2232671 8-May-2019 09:19

I have not removed the reCAPTCHA code but replaced google.com with recaptcha.net - this should prevent proxy errors if you have problems with the Google domain.

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#2232877 8-May-2019 12:09

Hmm, that's actually made it worse, now I need to allow google,com, recaptcha.net, and licdn.com just to post.

Ugh, and something more beyond that, I can't post this message at the moment, will try enabling more domains.

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#2232880 8-May-2019 12:10

Cloudfront.

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#2232881 8-May-2019 12:11

Cloudfront, licdn are not required to post.

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#2232882 8-May-2019 12:14

Aside from everything @stevebiddle writes, I've never seen a single Spam post on Geekzone.

Is all this really necessary?

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#2232886 8-May-2019 12:23

You don't see because these are removed. There a few every week. Also some registrations are blocked because we use a third-party validation service. Then there's the odd spammers who join but don't post in forums but send PM spam to a lot of people. We already block some countries making them Read Only because of that.

I keep looking at ways of automating this process, adding more tools to avoid having these things happening.

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#2232888 8-May-2019 12:26

muppet:

Aside from everything @stevebiddle writes, I've never seen a single Spam post on Geekzone.

Is all this really necessary?

see my screenshot above. had spam come through right as i was making exactly the same point...

and besides, it's not biddles writing it's @michaelmurfy's you have to watch out for!

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#2232895 8-May-2019 12:30

And that is one that lived only a few minutes. People have no idea of the traffic we get, so second guessing seems easy...

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#2232898 8-May-2019 12:37

freitasm: And that is one that lived only a few minutes. People have no idea of the traffic we get, so second guessing seems easy...

surely it wouldnt be hard to show that rather than leaving everyone to assume?

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