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Topic # 6126 29-Dec-2005 06:29
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I just had an advert with a semi-transparent overlay of a mobile phone opening and closing and moving around the screen.

Very pretty, no doubt very artistic.

However my (now fairly old) portable was sweating a bit when displaying it.
Not sure how big it was, but if I wasn't on Broadband I suspect the impact could have been even greater.

Do we have to have these fancy graphics?
Another site I visit has these 'punch the monkey' variants which again have very fancy graphics.
O.K. on a dedicated PC with a Broadband connection, but not friendly to more limited technology.

For instace, at work (for enhanced security) all our Internet access is via a terminal server and any fancy graphics kills the performance stone dead.

So the fancy graphics are counter productive; the 'user experience' is a combination of frustration and rage.

So how about a 'no fancy grahics' button in the user configuration area?

I have no objection to adverts (they help fund the site and I don't have to read them) just to high end graphics with lots of motion.

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Reply # 25431 29-Dec-2005 08:23
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I think I saw this once - it's a Motorola RAZR. I am trying to find where it's coming from to block it. It's not from Motorola because it's not in the list our agency shows to us and it won't show here in New Zealand - only when I am using CDMA which gives me a USA IP address.

If you see this again, please tell me what is the company or site!







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Reply # 25440 29-Dec-2005 08:51
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Found it... Verizon Wireless, RAZR V3. Shame it's so intrusive - these guys were paying top dollar per impression. It's blocked now.







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Reply # 25441 29-Dec-2005 09:21
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Thanks - but this wasn't really my main point :-)

There are loads of less intrusive adverts which still cause bandwidth problems; anything which refreshes at more than once every 10 seconds is likely to be a problem.

I was suggesting a web site/bulletin board option to turn of all animated graphics for the benefit of low bandwidth users.

I was also indirectly suggesting that advertisers thought more about the impact of their high tech. presentations; they may be using the latest uber-cool software but they are not necessarily friendly towards their potential customer.

At one time web site designers had the same problem; they all wanted to strut their stuff with fancy Flash welcome pages. At least now most give the option to skip the animations.

If web sites start blocking high bandwidth graphics adverts then they may start to get the message; have you told the advertisers that they have been blocked (and why)?

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Reply # 25444 29-Dec-2005 09:57
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There are some extenstions for Firefox that allow you to prevent Flash to load by default and also allow you to control how images are loaded.

All animated GIFs here play once and then just show the first frame. If its over 300kb, it only loads the first frame and nothing else. Flash objects don't load by default either (though they can be trigged by clicking the object).

I realize that if you are in a business environment, thus are probably using Internet Explorer. We used to (past tense, I don't work there anymore) block the most common animations by using ISA and just blocking all flash files except for certain user groups.

A bit offtopic....




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Reply # 25445 29-Dec-2005 10:11
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I don't mind animated gifs - but there's a limit. I think Tribal Fusion limits to 30Kbytes - the ones I run myself are certainly not bigger than this.

As for web board with no ads - I know of sites offering this option to paid subscribers. I don't think we will be running a subscription service to this end. People are not used to pay for content, and paying not to receive ads is something people do only for cable TV.

We do try to have more context related ads, and try to filter out some unrelated stuff - most of the times this is for US and UK users only, advertisers (or networks) are hard to find outside these countries.

One thing is running a blog on a free service such as blogger. Other thing is working full time on the site running a dedicated server with its costs (hosting, traffic, software, postage for items sent/received).

Yes, my current job is Geekzone only (I do some consultancy gigs but these are not frequent).







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Reply # 25448 29-Dec-2005 10:27
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Don't get me wrong.
I'm not against ads per-say as they make a lot of services cheaper or free but I am against those annoying ads that you sometimes see on C|net which start streaming video without your permission - being on 56k at the moment it really rapes the connection. Those I detest.

While I could use free services like Blogger, hotmail/yahoo mail/ geocities etc - I perfer to pay for my own hosting due to the advertising on those services.




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Reply # 25452 29-Dec-2005 10:32
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cokemaster: ...I am against those annoying ads that you sometimes see on C|net which start streaming video without your permission...
Or if you are here in New Zealand the ones on Stuff. How dare they start streaming video and audio?

If you are in an office environment it annoys everyone there. If you are at home it uses your bandwidth. And they don't even bother replying to emails complaining about their "service".

LittleGreyCat, if you don't know, Stuff is a newspaper (The Dominion Post) and they have this annoying ads that jump on the screen in front of you and stream 30 seconds ads, same ones we see on TV. Very annoying...





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Reply # 25454 29-Dec-2005 10:57
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Offtopic
freitasm: ......
LittleGreyCat, if you don't know, Stuff is a newspaper (The Dominion Post)......

Didn't realize that till now. I use it quite often but probably should have noticed with the cartoons (some of them are gems) which also appear in the paper.

Learn something new every day.




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