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Topic # 65556 3-Aug-2010 14:06
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Hi

I have a suggestion for the "Jobs" section.

I notice that there are a lot of jobs there from jobs.co.nz. I also notice that if you post your job ad at the wrong time you can be automatically buried on page 6 when jobs.co.nz drop their job listing database on the forum.

Would it be possible or even more practical for everyone, if a separate sub forum called jobs.co.nz or something was created and all the listings kept there?

This would stop single post people from being buried each time jobs.co.nz lists.

People who want to see the jobs.co.nz posts will still search to the sub forum to see them.

Just a thought. 




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  Reply # 362375 3-Aug-2010 14:12
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also would be great to see a location prefix on the jobs forum topic name. E.g. AKL-Java Developed, WLG-Business Development Manager, etc.



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  Reply # 362819 4-Aug-2010 11:01
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Well gehenna, seems no one wants to know about our suggestions.

ho hum.




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  Reply # 367099 13-Aug-2010 11:32
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Well I do.

There's a jobs section but it's just one huge list.

Location is a huge one, I mean you have to read through each individual job post to find if it's anywhere near you.

Sections would be great. Calling it all IT jobs is a bit of a cop out.

Needs some columns that you can sort by. Maybe location, posted date, salary even, and job type classification.

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  Reply # 367130 13-Aug-2010 12:30
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I was looking at the data we receive... We can certainly add location, and categories. Salary (or bands) is not available though.





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  Reply # 367131 13-Aug-2010 12:34
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I too would really like a subsection, as would be handy to see the jobs from people who post a new job listing less than say once per month (or some such similar number).






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  Reply # 367148 13-Aug-2010 13:16
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freitasm: I was looking at the data we receive... We can certainly add location, and categories. Salary (or bands) is not available though.


but what about subsections please?




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  Reply # 367151 13-Aug-2010 13:20
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The whole idea of having the jobs.co.nz listings (and others we are trying to attract) is to create a critical mass that makes the whole section more visible. And more people visiting that section means more likely your job post will be seen.

Is there the risk? Yes, but going forward the whole "Jobs forum" might be moved into jobs.geekzone.co.nz with more features that we can provide in the forum.





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  Reply # 367206 13-Aug-2010 14:52
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freitasm: Salary (or bands) is not available though.
That's such a funny kiwi thing. 

It's like salary is a taboo question here, in some cases right up until past the first interview sort of thing.  Overseas most jobs get advertised at least showing a salary band, but here we pretend we go to work for love of the company/job rather than the fundamental to earn money, to exchange for goods and services or what ever it is, to buy stuff.

With regards to another geekzone job site, I didn't know this existed.  Perhaps if that is the case then the forum should be for casual advertisers to advertise in, not professional/agencies etc.  Either way, yeah location and possibly some more specific job content categorization may be a goer?

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  Reply # 367215 13-Aug-2010 15:12
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freitasm: You didn't know? Never followed any link from our homepage or from the Jobs forum?

Well kind of no really.  I've gone to the forum jobs section traditionally but I see when you use the top IT Jobs link it's all the same content anyway.  I guess all I'm saying, along with others here, is where ever that content is, it would be nice if it was more searchable.

Whilst you are at it, a forum search that allowed you to specify what forum categories you wanted answers from wouldn't go a miss either.  I think this has been raised before as well, and it's along the same lines.

This is all intended as hopefully useful feedback.  The contents all good, just looking for a way to get to it.

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  Reply # 367337 13-Aug-2010 19:46
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I would love to get back the description and the location of the job in the RSS feed



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  Reply # 367343 13-Aug-2010 20:08
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freitasm: jobs.co.nz listings create a critical mass that makes the whole section more visible. And more people visiting that section means more likely your job post will be seen.



This is exactly why our listings wont be seen though.

If I post one listing for a job, it gets buried under pages of your critical mass and noone bothers digging deep enough to find it!

By putting all the critical mass in its own sub section would make single listings easier to find, therefore enticing more people to actually leave listings instead of not wasting their time.

Sure you will end up with hundreds of listings from one organisation but is it worth destroying any hope a single listing has of being seen?

If you wont create a sub listing for jobs.co.nz, will you create one for normal people? That way your precious jobs.co.nz listings will still be the first (and only) listings people will see, but there will also be a place where all normal listings can be searched easily as well.

Surely it deserves some thought?

Ok I have said my peace. If it is to be ignored or dismissed, so be it.




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  Reply # 367348 13-Aug-2010 20:17
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This is exactly how it works on Trade Me Properties, Trade Me Jobs and Trade Me Motors. The whole thing is based on the volume to attract people to see it.

If the job section only had a handful of listings or was empty then people couldn't be bothered looking at it. Actually this is exactly the same explanation I read yesterday on Trade Me: The Inside Story.

No one is trying to hide your posts. We are actually trying to attract more people to see it.

We are not ignoring your peace (sic). I am giving you the reasoning behind the reason it is like this.








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  Reply # 367649 14-Aug-2010 19:29
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I do agree that it would be more organised which is better for searching what you're looking for. I think it's a pretty good idea.

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