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#2526294 20-Jul-2020 22:33

Looking at upgrading our tv in the lounge to 4K and putting the current lounge TV into my computer room on the wall for a third screen to watch tv and movies on while using my PC.
Id love to use this as an opportunity to get rid of mysky and put another vodafone TV into the lounge.

Does anyone know if i can record all of the sky programs if i subscribe via the VTV .. My wife is an F1 fan so if i can get 4k F1 the WAF will go up.

Does the 1 subscription cover 2 linked vtv devices?

And can I link the VTV devices to the one account yet?

vonfluffy

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#2526295 20-Jul-2020 22:39

Just realised im an idiot. F1 is off spark sport now.. she watches chromecast from the ipad.

I might be able to get away with this as long as she can record all the other UK crap.. (obviously i just misspeld content here).

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#2526298 20-Jul-2020 23:08

vonfluffy:

Looking at upgrading our tv in the lounge to 4K and putting the current lounge TV into my computer room on the wall for a third screen to watch tv and movies on while using my PC.
Id love to use this as an opportunity to get rid of mysky and put another vodafone TV into the lounge.

Does anyone know if i can record all of the sky programs if i subscribe via the VTV .. My wife is an F1 fan so if i can get 4k F1 the WAF will go up.

Does the 1 subscription cover 2 linked vtv devices?

And can I link the VTV devices to the one account yet?

Sky recording rights are very good. Close to 100% of Sky programmes can be recorded.

You can have up to 6 VTV boxes linked to the same Sky subscription. As you probably know, Sky call this multiroom. With VTV this costs $25/mth per additional box that shares all the household Sky subscriptions. Each box can record and share the recordings across all the linked boxes. Note that this pricing is reasonable considering it's normally $40/mth for a MySky recording multiroom box.

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#2526304 20-Jul-2020 23:43

Might be a silly question, but -

If I use the Vodafone TV device to request a recording and/or all in a series, does the device have to be switched on?

Logic tells me it must be (at least for the times of the booked recordings/broadcasts) BUT as I understand it the recording is saved in the cloud and not on the device itself, so perhaps the recording request has already been lodged/sent somewhere off the device, maybe on a server somewhere?

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#2526316 21-Jul-2020 03:45

Are there any plans to add a media player app to VTV, something like Kodi, so I can play videos from my local network?

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#2526320 21-Jul-2020 07:15

Rickles:

Might be a silly question, but -

If I use the Vodafone TV device to request a recording and/or all in a series, does the device have to be switched on?

Logic tells me it must be (at least for the times of the booked recordings/broadcasts) BUT as I understand it the recording is saved in the cloud and not on the device itself, so perhaps the recording request has already been lodged/sent somewhere off the device, maybe on a server somewhere?

Hi, the device does not have to be turned on till you want to watch what you have requested to be recorded. Once you have set something to record it does it in the background/cloud if the device is on or off.

Great device.

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#2526364 21-Jul-2020 09:44

@Smithy47 ... thanks for that, indeed a clever little beasty/system 😋

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#2526489 21-Jul-2020 12:21

sansom:

Sky recording rights are very good. Close to 100% of Sky programmes can be recorded.

You can have up to 6 VTV boxes linked to the same Sky subscription. As you probably know, Sky call this multiroom. With VTV this costs $25/mth per additional box that shares all the household Sky subscriptions. Each box can record and share the recordings across all the linked boxes. Note that this pricing is reasonable considering it's normally $40/mth for a MySky recording multiroom box.

Perfect.. Thanks for answering my questions.. Now to get the wife to buy in.

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#2526531 21-Jul-2020 13:33

>Are there any plans to add a media player app to VTV, something like Kodi, so I can play videos from my local network?<

Ohhhh, that would be nice 😊

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#2526576 21-Jul-2020 14:40

Got a quick question re: recording:
How does it work? Are the recordings stored individually as videos on VF's servers (using a crapload of hard drive space), or is it more clever, like goes to the timestamps of the show I've recorded and replay that section off one Continuous recording of that channel?

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#2526578 21-Jul-2020 14:40

PSlover14: Got a quick question re: recording:
How does it work? Are the recordings stored individually as videos on VF's servers (using a crapload of hard drive space), or is it more clever, like goes to the timestamps of the show I've recorded and replay that section off one Continuous recording of that channel?

@PSlover14 The clever part!

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#2526581 21-Jul-2020 14:43

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@PSlover14 The clever part!

Oh cool, it makes sense but for some reason I had envisioned a huge datacenter filled with everyone's recordings

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#2526618 21-Jul-2020 15:33

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PSlover14: Got a quick question re: recording:
How does it work? Are the recordings stored individually as videos on VF's servers (using a crapload of hard drive space), or is it more clever, like goes to the timestamps of the show I've recorded and replay that section off one Continuous recording of that channel?

@PSlover14 The clever part!

So it isn't really recording anything it is more bookmarking stuff.

Makes sense

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#2526863 22-Jul-2020 08:40

vonfluffy:

sansom:

Sky recording rights are very good. Close to 100% of Sky programmes can be recorded.

You can have up to 6 VTV boxes linked to the same Sky subscription. As you probably know, Sky call this multiroom. With VTV this costs $25/mth per additional box that shares all the household Sky subscriptions. Each box can record and share the recordings across all the linked boxes. Note that this pricing is reasonable considering it's normally $40/mth for a MySky recording multiroom box.

Perfect.. Thanks for answering my questions.. Now to get the wife to buy in.

And to clarify (as some have questioned the 6 box statement): you can add 5 multirooms to the original box that has the Sky subscriptions... so 6 boxes in total sharing the same Sky subscriptions and any recordings.

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#2526879 22-Jul-2020 09:03

PSlover14:

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@PSlover14 The clever part!

Oh cool, it makes sense but for some reason I had envisioned a huge datacenter filled with everyone's recordings

Don't worry @PSlover, your visions are correct! There are huge datacenters all around the world supporting the VTV ... some based NZ (Origin server, CDN and video pipe, Vodafone NZ datacentres in Akl, Well & Chch), Australia (VTV UI caching for NZ only, Vodafone NZ on AWS), and Ireland (VTV multi-tenanted CMS for all markets, Vodafone Group on AWS).

For recordings, it's all local to NZ on the Origin and distributed by the CDN:

1. There is a 3 day circular buffer recording a single copy for all channels & all programmes to the Origin server. These recordings can be played by any VTV box or VTV mobile app using the 3 day rewind feature if the rights are available (via the CDN as required).

2. If any one VTV customer chooses to record any of the programmes, then one copy of the programme from the 3 day buffer is scheduled to be moved into longer term storage. Only one copy is required (as noted already in this forum) and all other customers who also recorded the same programme can play this from the same single copy via the CDN.

You may wonder why we don't just enable a 365 day circular buffer and be done with it. Unfortunately, content rights do not allow this. The only reason we can offer any cloud recordings at all is because this setup simulates the user experience of having a local hard disk recording process (which is allowed due to the famous "Betamax" copyright case in the USA), and even then some studios don't allow it on certain programmes.

Hamish

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