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#140171 24-Jun-2008 14:00

ZIMsar10: After briefly looking through the specs of the Jesus Phone, I am very disappointed to learn that it does not appear to support 900Mhz - UMTS!!

Linky: http://www.apple.com/nz/iphone/specs.html

What on earth are Apple thinking?

Vodafone are investing millions in their 900Mhz - UMTS Rural Network Nationally & Internationally & yes I realise other phones do support this UMTS frequency, but I can't understand why Apple did not add this in the first place, to what appears to be largely a VERY cool/high tech piece of kit.

Can anyone confirm if there is any chance that the chip can be upgraded to support 900Mhz UMTS? It is probably/more than likely a long shot, but man, what a very short sighted view on Apple's behalf, I must say.

They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all else use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.

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jmcollis

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#140202 24-Jun-2008 16:10

Hmm. FWIW Vodafone NZ's iPhone page is no longer taking contact details. They now simply refer you to their press release and the NZ Apple iPhone page.

motorwayne

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#140204 24-Jun-2008 16:26

How i wonder what they are up to. Probably not sure themselves. Must be hard waiting to hear from Apple on what's what.

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#140205 24-Jun-2008 16:26

SightUnseen:
They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.

Eeer. 2100MHz UMTS is most common around the world, except the Americas where 1900MHz and 850MHz is used, as well as Australia where Telstra have used 850MHz for Next G. I think they were proabaly more likely to be looking at the lack of 900Mhz Networks and decided it wasnt worth it.

Here you go if you would like more detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks

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#140206 24-Jun-2008 16:30

motorwayne: How i wonder what they are up to. Probably not sure themselves. Must be hard waiting to hear from Apple on what's what.

I'm hoping it means their ready to start contacting those who signed up.

SightUnseen

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#140207 24-Jun-2008 16:32

mushion22:
SightUnseen:
They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.

Eeer. 2100MHz UMTS is most common around the world, except the Americas where 1900MHz and 850MHz is used, as well as Australia where Telstra have used 850MHz for Next G. I think they were proabaly more likely to be looking at the lack of 900Mhz Networks and decided it wasnt worth it.

Here you go if you would like more detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks

Err, was that for my benefit, or for the benefit of others?

I should have spelt it out and said "in comparison to 850MHz..." I guess.

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#140209 24-Jun-2008 16:41

SightUnseen:
mushion22:
SightUnseen:
They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.

Eeer. 2100MHz UMTS is most common around the world, except the Americas where 1900MHz and 850MHz is used, as well as Australia where Telstra have used 850MHz for Next G. I think they were proabaly more likely to be looking at the lack of 900Mhz Networks and decided it wasnt worth it.

Here you go if you would like more detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks

Err, was that for my benefit, or for the benefit of others?

I should have spelt it out and said "in comparison to 850MHz..." I guess.

Hmmm you edited your post.
You said 'They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.'
I dont think apple are silly enough to think that NZ and Australia use 900 and the rest of the world use 850Mhz. Cos... thats not true, and its not like thats a hard thing to work out.

Edit: Yes, NZ and Aus use 900 as well as 2100. My point being that Apple probably just didnt want to go to the effort of putting in 900 when its not particularly common.

SightUnseen

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#140212 24-Jun-2008 16:52

mushion22:
SightUnseen:
mushion22:
SightUnseen:
They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.

Eeer. 2100MHz UMTS is most common around the world, except the Americas where 1900MHz and 850MHz is used, as well as Australia where Telstra have used 850MHz for Next G. I think they were proabaly more likely to be looking at the lack of 900Mhz Networks and decided it wasnt worth it.

Here you go if you would like more detail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks

Err, was that for my benefit, or for the benefit of others?

I should have spelt it out and said "in comparison to 850MHz..." I guess.

Hmmm you edited your post.
You said 'They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.'
I dont think apple are silly enough to think that NZ and Australia use 900 and the rest of the world use 850Mhz. Cos... thats not true, and its not like thats a hard thing to work out.

Yes, I did - clarified my point somewhat. I was talking about 900MHz versus 850MHz. An overriding factor was of course the availability of chips, and the frequencies that they support. If I was going to build a quad band RF chip after looking at the market, I'd select the same four that were used, as well.

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#140213 24-Jun-2008 16:56

i'll interject now in between the flying handbags happening above...

Interestingly, I received (and completed) an invitation to complete one of the Vodafone customer surveys this morning. The focus was on what i thought about visual voicemail, voicemail notifications received by email and voice messages converted to text and sent to you as a text message.

So perhaps these things are on the horizon?

SightUnseen

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#140214 24-Jun-2008 17:03

bcourtney: i'll interject now in between the flying handbags happening above...

But I want to be able to sell it on TradeMe after the dust clears!

Actually, I thought we were just having a conversation...not pistols at dawn.

Visual Voicemail does take some integration, and doing so with Vodafone's Asia Pacific's (well, Aus and NZ for now) bespoke systems will take a little while.

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mushion22

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#140215 24-Jun-2008 17:04

Huh? The iPhone has quad band GSM support. Not quadband UMTS. http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html They have left out 900Mhz UMTS Support. That was the point. Therefore in NZ and Australia iPhones will only have access the Vodafone/Optus (and assumably Telstra and Telecom NZ) 2100Mhz 3G networks.

Anyway my point was negating ZIMsar in saying "Can anyone confirm if there is any chance that the chip can be upgraded to support 900Mhz UMTS? It is probably/more than likely a long shot, but man, what a very short sighted view on Apple's behalf, I must say"

I disagree that it is short sighted, given the lack of 900MHz networks worldwide.

PS: No handbags are involved. I prefer a Manbag ;)

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#140219 24-Jun-2008 17:18

mushion22: Huh? The iPhone has quad band GSM support. Not quadband UMTS. http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html They have left out 900Mhz UMTS Support. That was the point. Therefore in NZ and Australia iPhones will only have access the Vodafone/Optus (and assumably Telstra and Telecom NZ) 2100Mhz 3G networks.

Anyway my point was negating ZIMsar in saying "Can anyone confirm if there is any chance that the chip can be upgraded to support 900Mhz UMTS? It is probably/more than likely a long shot, but man, what a very short sighted view on Apple's behalf, I must say"

I disagree that it is short sighted, given the lack of 900MHz networks worldwide.

PS: No handbags are involved. I prefer a Manbag ;)

You're correct - I intended to say 3. That's what I get for posting whilst on the phone.

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mushion22

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#140220 24-Jun-2008 17:20

Totems! Frostshock! Reincarnate! Frostshock!

Haha.

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#140221 24-Jun-2008 17:21

SightUnseen:

They were thinking NZ, Australia, and stuff all else use 900MHz, while the rest of the world use 850, is what they were thinking.

There are very few 850MHz networks. Telstra's Next G is the biggest and AT&T have 850MHz coverage in quite a few major US cities along with their 1900MHz network. Apart from that there is nothing eklse of significance and there never will be - 850 is only of any real use if you have existing AMPS/DAMPS/CDMA spectrum.

There are now a growing number of 900MHz 3G networks with NZ having one of the largest in the world so far and Australia and many Euopean networks deploying small scale trials.

Argueable the reason the 3G iPhone does 850MHz+1900MHz WCDMA is to cater to AT&T. With the large number of 900MHz WCMDA handsets appearing later this year it's obviously a market Apple won't be able to ignore but the issue at present is that there is not a single device on the market that does 850+900 WCDMA on the same chipset - everybody is adopting two different models with 850+2100 or 900+2100 support.

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#140250 24-Jun-2008 18:52

The more I read, the more I'm happy to have my fully unlocked 1st gen iphone.
I was all keen on the 3G, but now I think I'll stick with the 1G for at least a few months (unless work decides to get one!)

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