[TelstraClear] TelstraClear transparent proxy or international routes... Here we go again

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#704789 22-Oct-2012 20:55

quakeguy: Snap:

Tracing route to geekzone.co.nz [2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:ca42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2406:e000:632f::
2 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 2406:e000:98:1::1
3 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 2406:e000:98:3::1
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 2001:de8:6::2:3655:1
8 84 ms 89 ms 99 ms 2001:de8:6::1:3335:1
9 45 ms 44 ms 44 ms 2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:ca42

Trace complete.

lol :-) ipv4:

Tracing route to geekzone.co.nz [108.162.203.66]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.home.tw.net.nz [192.168.9.254]
2 5 ms 7 ms 4 ms 20.17.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.17.20]
3 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 24.17.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.17.24]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 41 ms 42 ms 42 ms 23655.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.156]
8 114 ms 59 ms 69 ms 13335.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.154]
9 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 108.162.203.66

Trace complete.

snap have their own connection to sydney equinix these days.

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#704790 22-Oct-2012 20:56

timmmay: Wow, 400ms to my website in Sydney. Are they going via the international space station or something?

probably via the US in both directions.

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#704793 22-Oct-2012 21:01

Here's a couple more ISPs

NZ1

2 23 ms 21 ms 30 ms 49-50-240-193.hd.net.nz [49.50.240.193]
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10ge-v4071.pm-ce1.hd.net.nz [113.21.225.230]
4 24 ms 28 ms 22 ms 103-2-123-190.ip.transit.fastcom.net.nz [103.2.123.190]
5 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms ip-225.203.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.203.225]
6 59 ms 54 ms 51 ms ten-0-2-0-300.bdr02.akl01.akl.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.202.40]
7 * 46 ms 44 ms pos-0-2-0.cor02.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.130]
8 46 ms 46 ms 47 ms ip-215.192.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.215]
9 63 ms 68 ms 82 ms 13335.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.154]
10 48 ms 49 ms 46 ms 108.162.195.167

NZ2
2 41 ms 43 ms 34 ms 60.234.42.249
3 25 ms 23 ms 25 ms 60.234.42.193
4 24 ms 24 ms 22 ms 60.234.42.161
5 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms xe-1-0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
6 26 ms 30 ms 26 ms 121.99.12.0
7 76 ms 76 ms 89 ms p17746.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.93]
8 85 ms 58 ms 60 ms 13335.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.154]
9 49 ms 52 ms 63 ms 108.162.195.67

mercutio

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#704795 22-Oct-2012 21:09

timmmay: Here's a couple more ISPs

NZ1

2 23 ms 21 ms 30 ms 49-50-240-193.hd.net.nz [49.50.240.193]
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10ge-v4071.pm-ce1.hd.net.nz [113.21.225.230]
4 24 ms 28 ms 22 ms 103-2-123-190.ip.transit.fastcom.net.nz [103.2.123.190]
5 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms ip-225.203.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.203.225]
6 59 ms 54 ms 51 ms ten-0-2-0-300.bdr02.akl01.akl.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.202.40]
7 * 46 ms 44 ms pos-0-2-0.cor02.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.130]
8 46 ms 46 ms 47 ms ip-215.192.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.215]
9 63 ms 68 ms 82 ms 13335.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.154]
10 48 ms 49 ms 46 ms 108.162.195.167

NZ2
2 41 ms 43 ms 34 ms 60.234.42.249
3 25 ms 23 ms 25 ms 60.234.42.193
4 24 ms 24 ms 22 ms 60.234.42.161
5 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms xe-1-0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
6 26 ms 30 ms 26 ms 121.99.12.0
7 76 ms 76 ms 89 ms p17746.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.93]
8 85 ms 58 ms 60 ms 13335.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.154]
9 49 ms 52 ms 63 ms 108.162.195.67

yeah it's probably just telstraclear having issues

--- 108.162.195.67 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9011ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 24.034/24.262/25.256/0.364 ms

I nearly got under 24 msec!

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#704797 22-Oct-2012 21:12

That'd be nice, my website would be super fast too, like GZ usually is.

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#704807 22-Oct-2012 21:23

Yes we are quite happy with our AK - AU link!

We will have a look at getting the "*** request timed out" tidied up.

mercutio:
quakeguy: Snap:

Tracing route to geekzone.co.nz [2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:ca42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2406:e000:632f::
2 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 2406:e000:98:1::1
3 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 2406:e000:98:3::1
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 2001:de8:6::2:3655:1
8 84 ms 89 ms 99 ms 2001:de8:6::1:3335:1
9 45 ms 44 ms 44 ms 2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:ca42

Trace complete.

lol :-) ipv4:

Tracing route to geekzone.co.nz [108.162.203.66]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.home.tw.net.nz [192.168.9.254]
2 5 ms 7 ms 4 ms 20.17.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.17.20]
3 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 24.17.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.17.24]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 41 ms 42 ms 42 ms 23655.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.156]
8 114 ms 59 ms 69 ms 13335.syd.equinix.com [202.167.228.154]
9 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 108.162.203.66

Trace complete.

snap have their own connection to sydney equinix these days.

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#704809 22-Oct-2012 21:25

Any plans for your own AK - US link?

RalphFromSnap: Yes we are quite happy with our AK - AU link!

We will have a look at getting the "*** request timed out" tidied up.

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#705346 23-Oct-2012 21:26

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   | 
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last | 
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------| 
|                            rb751-router -    0 |   29 |   29 |    1 |    4 |   46 |    5 | 
|                             192.168.5.1 -    0 |   29 |   29 |    1 |    6 |   54 |    1 | 
|                   No response from host -  100 |    5 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 | 
|                          218.101.61.101 -    0 |   29 |   29 |   10 |   41 |  341 |   22 | 
|            ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   23 |   27 |   62 |   24 | 
| ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net -    5 |   23 |   22 |   23 |   28 |   53 |   32 | 
|               unknown.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   23 |   26 |   53 |   24 | 
|i-0-1-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   48 |   49 |   55 |   48 | 
|i-0-3-2-0.sydo-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   48 |   50 |   69 |   52 | 
|  i-3-2.pthp-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |  102 |  104 |  113 |  105 | 
|i-1-1-0.6ntp-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |  150 |  152 |  163 |  151 | 
|   i-0-1-0-1.6ntp01.bi.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |  152 |  154 |  165 |  154 | 
|                  p10026.sgw.equinix.com -    0 |   29 |   29 |  153 |  155 |  162 |  155 | 
|                          141.101.77.253 -    0 |   29 |   29 |  154 |  156 |  164 |  155 | 
|                          108.162.203.66 -    0 |   28 |   28 |  155 |  157 |  178 |  157 | 
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______| 
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

Is the problem here that CloudFlare are just just announcing their ranges in the wrong direction? The more I look at this it would seem like a BGP issue with CloudeFlare but I'm no way any sort of BGP expert and know even less about CDN technology.

inetnum:         141.101.77.0 - 141.101.77.255 
netname:         CLOUDFLARE-EU 
descr:           CloudFlare CDN network

Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - don@i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz

mercutio

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#705351 23-Oct-2012 21:39

DonGould:

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   | 
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last | 
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------| 
|                            rb751-router -    0 |   29 |   29 |    1 |    4 |   46 |    5 | 
|                             192.168.5.1 -    0 |   29 |   29 |    1 |    6 |   54 |    1 | 
|                   No response from host -  100 |    5 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 | 
|                          218.101.61.101 -    0 |   29 |   29 |   10 |   41 |  341 |   22 | 
|            ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   23 |   27 |   62 |   24 | 
| ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net -    5 |   23 |   22 |   23 |   28 |   53 |   32 | 
|               unknown.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   23 |   26 |   53 |   24 | 
|i-0-1-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   48 |   49 |   55 |   48 | 
|i-0-3-2-0.sydo-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |   48 |   50 |   69 |   52 | 
|  i-3-2.pthp-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |  102 |  104 |  113 |  105 | 
|i-1-1-0.6ntp-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |  150 |  152 |  163 |  151 | 
|   i-0-1-0-1.6ntp01.bi.telstraglobal.net -    0 |   29 |   29 |  152 |  154 |  165 |  154 | 
|                  p10026.sgw.equinix.com -    0 |   29 |   29 |  153 |  155 |  162 |  155 | 
|                          141.101.77.253 -    0 |   29 |   29 |  154 |  156 |  164 |  155 | 
|                          108.162.203.66 -    0 |   28 |   28 |  155 |  157 |  178 |  157 | 
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______| 
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

inetnum:         141.101.77.0 - 141.101.77.255 
netname:         CLOUDFLARE-EU 
descr:           CloudFlare CDN network

it's most likely just a simple peering problem in australia. ultradns used to be screwed for new zealand too -- goign to hong kong (they host a lot of domains) and opendns used to be screwed too -- singapore, but some packet loss too.

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#705374 23-Oct-2012 21:49

mercutio: Any plans for your own AK - US link?

RalphFromSnap: Yes we are quite happy with our AK - AU link!

We will have a look at getting the "*** request timed out" tidied up.

this ^^ would make me ecstatic.

DonGould

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#705380 23-Oct-2012 21:53

mercutio:
it's most likely just a simple peering problem in australia. ultradns used to be screwed for new zealand too -- goign to hong kong (they host a lot of domains) and opendns used to be screwed too -- singapore, but some packet loss too.

Yes, could well be just that. Perhaps MF should post on AuNOG and get some suggestions.

(Click to see the image a bit bigger)

Seems the problem showed up on the 16th and the latency keeps bumping up to 500ms.

Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - don@i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz

mercutio

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#705389 23-Oct-2012 22:01

DonGould:
mercutio:
it's most likely just a simple peering problem in australia. ultradns used to be screwed for new zealand too -- goign to hong kong (they host a lot of domains) and opendns used to be screwed too -- singapore, but some packet loss too.

Yes, could well be just that. Perhaps MF should post on AuNOG and get some suggestions.

(Click to see the image a bit bigger)

Seems the problem showed up on the 16th and the latency keeps bumping up to 500ms.

that's insane? is it generally considered ok to smokeping geekzone?? maybe i should try. i checked out my smokeping of other sites, and google had high pings on monday night, but nothing like what you're experiencing. you got a smokeping of google?

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#705392 23-Oct-2012 22:04

http://puu.sh/1hOEc

Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - don@i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz

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#705393 23-Oct-2012 22:09

DonGould: http://puu.sh/1hOEc

curious, that's looking pretty good, jitter got noticably better recently too.

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#709904 31-Oct-2012 15:14

This is a tracert from Slingshot:


 1 *.co.nz (101.98.*.*) 0.406 ms 0.586 ms 0.564 ms
 2 p89.pool-82.callplus.net.nz (202.180.82.89) 0.669 ms 0.935 ms 0.917 ms
 3 vlan7-cpcak3-s1.tranzpeer.net (202.180.81.49) 0.871 ms 1.112 ms 1.097 ms
 4 xe-0-0-0-4061.cpcak2-r1.tranzpeer.net (101.98.1.82) 27.364 ms 27.604 ms 27.585 ms
 5 voc-d.cpcsy1-r1.tranzpeer.net (101.98.1.122) 24.900 ms 25.084 ms 25.068 ms
 6 13335.syd.equinix.com (202.167.228.154) 24.881 ms 24.938 ms 24.936 ms
 7 108.162.202.66 (108.162.202.66) 24.998 ms 24.949 ms 25.219 ms

And this is on TelstraClear:


1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms srp521w (192.168.2.1) 
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 15 ms 7 ms 13 ms lo0.internet.ivpn.pe25.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.124) 
4 19 ms 15 ms 20 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.2) 
5 65 ms 19 ms 36 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.251) 
6 18 ms 23 ms 18 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.41) 
7 42 ms 39 ms 43 ms i-0-0-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.142.149) 
8 43 ms 43 ms 53 ms i-0-7-2-0.sydp-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.223.21) 
9 161 ms 157 ms 161 ms i-1-0-0.hkhh-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.141.210) 
10 195 ms 194 ms 193 ms i-3-0-2.istt-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.143.53) 
11 270 ms 279 ms 270 ms i-0-3-0-0.6ntp01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.243.6) 
12 196 ms 194 ms 205 ms p10026.sgw.equinix.com (202.79.197.20) 
13 268 ms 266 ms 281 ms 141.101.77.253 
14 215 ms 213 ms 213 ms 108.162.202.66

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